22 points

It’s tough for me because I love native app experiences but most are so invasive. I won’t be surprised when companies drop websites completely.

The whole Reddit saga had me re-evaluate my social media use.

For Meta I switched just to the mobile sites and noticed that with Messenger, it can’t even be accessed from the browser, and Instagram won’t even let you login unless you turn off private relay. I doubt we’ll ever get a threads website.

Now if I use a native app, it is only ones that collect as little data as possible. I use Dystopia for Reddit occasionally, Ice Cubes for Mastodon, Memmy for Lemmy and Surfboard for Tildes.

permalink
report
reply
8 points

The browser is a political statement that the user should be the one to control how the page is displayed. The native app is the opposite, a statement that the corporation should be the one to control how the page is displayed.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
*

we need to make tinkering with apps easier. the tech is already there with zygisk and xposed and modded apps in general but creating mods are the hard part.

ios jailbreaking had a tweak called flex at one point which was pretty good albeit paid and limited. we need to make a better flex for android so people can actually make mods as opposed to download shady pre-modded apks.

browsers already have userscripts and userstyles, though they seem to be falling out of use in favor of purpose made extensions

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

FEED US YOUR DATA BEEP BOOP

Argh, rule, now I have to find something to post before I go.

permalink
report
reply
23 points

It’s Web 2.0 dummy, Web 3.0 is crypto and NFTs

permalink
report
reply
17 points

Is Lemmy not also 3.0? It’s decentralized. Tho maybe because it’s still servers/hosting at the end of the day maybe not?

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

I’m pretty sure the term Web 3.0 was created by cryptobros to promote their stuff

I don’t think Lemmy counts because you are still using the head server instead of being self-hosted

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Lemmy is self hosted.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

Eh ok, Web3 seems to be pretty hazy and loosely defined so I’m inclined to believe you’re right about it being just a buzzword basically.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

Web 3.0 is literally only a thing I’ve seen crypto people talk about. Decentralized infrastructure has been around for ages without that language, and the only projects I see using Web 3 language is crypto currency nonsense.

If anything, Web 3.0 seems allergic to actually decentralized infrastructure beyond telling people who lose money on crypto exchanges to run their own hardware wallet; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web3#Not_decentralised

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Imo “web 3.0” is a cool idea in theory, but never quite reached its potential. I posted this elsewhere, but imo the term should be generalized to include non-blockchain decentralization.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

Proposal: Since Web 3.0 was once standing for decentralization and has been coopted by crypto, we should name our decentralized-only thing Web NT 3.0. You know, like New Technology. Like that spinoff Windows with a new kernel which eventually replaced the aging DOS kernel.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

You’re right. They should’ve called apps web 3.0, but then the web guys might have to admit that a big reason why people flocked to apps is because of how much they’d already enshittified the web at that point.

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points

So Web 1.0 was just the normal internet, created by users and companies.

Web 2.0 are the sites that try to consolidate and capture user-created content as their primary content. Link aggregation, art posts, etc.

Web 3.0 is the scam pushed by blockchain enthusiasts.

Will Web 4.0 be dubbed the AI web? Where anytime you use a search, browse a catalog or gallery or do almost anything else you interact through an AI?

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

I thought 2.0 was defined by SaaS, and 3.0 IoT 🤷‍♂️

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I’m pretty sure those are separate parallel terms, like IoT can be in Web 2.0 (website connectivity) and Web 3.0 (blockchain interconnectivity some IT CEOs were pushing)

permalink
report
parent
reply
68 points
*

Wasn’t it web 2.0? Also, good point, I always thought it was weird. Though it’s kinda obvious it’s about money.

permalink
report
reply
16 points

It is

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

“Web 3.0” is a term used to refer to distributed blockchain-based web services, in case anyone’s curious.

Though with the uptick in Lemmy I wonder if that term will end up being generalized to things like ActivityPub. One can hope.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

at this point let’s just let them have it. we’ll just be web 4.0

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

Honestly i’m pretty sure blockchain just co-opted the web3.0 term, i recall it being used for general decentralization in the past.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

You force me to use your app, you force me to use another website.

permalink
report
reply