There is a prequel to this and the words Israel and Hamas are exchanged.
I’m no supporter of either and I don’t believe that killing civilians on either side will answer questions, it will only make matters worse.
As Gandhi put it … “An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth … leaves a world full of blind, toothless people”
Gandhi was a total piece of shit pretending to be one of the good guys. Which I guess is pretty relevant to this conflict.
Also that quote is from Exodus.
If you think Gandhi was bad, you should look into Mother Theresa - the woman was literally a Disney cartoon villain.
I’m not convinced she wasn’t a sadist and got joy from the suffering of others.
On a long enough timeline everyone is a piece of shit. You on the other hand, are one right now.
Gandhi on Zionism:
My sympathies are all with the Jews.
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But my sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice.
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Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct. The mandates have no sanction but that of the last war. Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home.
Edit: This was 1938, btw. 10 years before the Nakba.
Ghandi abused his wife regularly and ended up killing her by way of refusing to let her go to a doctor. I’ll not be accepting any of his quotes, thanks.
Treat people like animals for decades, it’s no surprise how they act. Israel is at fault for both sides deaths.
No. Humans are more than their base instincts. Hamas should not have murdered civilians. The Israeli state apparatus should not be abusing Gazans. Both are true at the same time.
“It is hard to remember that people can be both victim and perpetrator at the same time.”
We try often try to assign one group as the good guys and the other as the bad guys. It doesn’t work like that.
It does however represent the group that killed 1000+ people, mostly civilians, with no clear goal beyond their stated desire for Jewish extinction and radical islamic Sharia law to be spread as far as possible.
Palestine in general being a victim doesn’t automatically make Hamas the good guys or their specific actions acceptable.
Yes, because Palestinians are toddlers and have no agency or responsibility for their actions. So patronizing.
They’re adults. They’re responsible for what they did.
There’s been an unbroken streak of violence since 1948, when the Arab states refused to allow the partition and began an offensive war. This has been followed by other military attempts by the Arabs, supported by the Palestinians, until they finally lost decisively in the 1970s. That has been followed by five decades of intermittent terrorism and organized attacks.
I get wanting to criticize Israel. Their policies have been dog shit in many areas… but intentionally attacking civilians is something which Israel doesn’t need to tolerate.
Get yourself a lesson in History and don’t just repeat the old antisemitic bullshit story.
The human cost of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (deaths/injuries) documented by the UN:
2008:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 3,202
Israel 🇮🇱 : 853
2009:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 7,460
Israel 🇮🇱 : 123
2010:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 1,659
Israel 🇮🇱 : 185
2011:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 2,260
Israel 🇮🇱 : 136
2012:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 4,936
Israel 🇮🇱 : 578
2013:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 4,031
Israel 🇮🇱 : 157
2014 :
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 19,860
Israel 🇮🇱 : 2,796
2015 :
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 14,813
Israel 🇮🇱 : 339
2016:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 3,572
Israel 🇮🇱 : 222
2017:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 8,526
Israel 🇮🇱 : 174
2018:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 31,558
Israel 🇮🇱 : 130
2019:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 15,628
Israel 🇮🇱 : 133
2020:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 2,781
Israel 🇮🇱 : 61
Source: Géopolia
Are these numbers civilian or combatant’s deaths/injuries? What was the background? Who attacked, who defended itself?
You know, numbers without context are nothing more than numbers.
As I said already, get some lessons in History.
KTHXBYE
I personally don’t like this “one site bad” thing(in this conflict at least). Of course, in terms of killed persons Israel is the bad guy, but also the things the Hamas did are pretty fucked up. I personally came to the conclusion that both sides are bad, Israel is allowed to defense itself against this brutality but shouldn’t take the opportunity to absolutely fuck Palestine again(what it sadly does). I’m not for Israel or Palestine. I’m for the civilists and human rights.
You have to look at it in terms of power dynamics though. Israel is a uS backed settler colonial apartheid regime that propped up Hamas because they would rather face Islamic fundamentalists then socialist opposition. They’re either directly or indirectly responsible for all of the violence.
Only one side could hypothetically end the violence tomorrow.
Oh, so Hamas was right to get money from All civilized world, dismount water systems for rockets, and spend all money not on water plants but on rockets and then wow, Israel have to supply free water to those fuckers who invade and kill everything they can with money they get for free. They don’t work, don’t produce anything, don’t make world better. They are lycheng on sociaty and there are people who support those fanatics and beasts. It was the same for my country when it got invaded. People know nothing but support those who in wrong from all point of view, only twisted mind can find exuce for their reasoning and actions.
Palestian Arabs are bad. They invaded and killed. They want to make genocide for millennia. You send money to them. You feed a cancer. You support killer and their child’s. They send those child’s to kill.
Hamas having hostages isn’t stopping Israel bombing hospitals and cutting off food, water, and electricity to the region. If it doesn’t stop them from escalating violence why do you think it is preventing them from making concessions and ending the violence?
ESH.
- Leave home
- Go Palestine
- “Balfour declaration bitches”
- Kick people out of their homes
- People mad
- “Oh no help meeereee”
Israel isn’treal.
