34 points

Treat people like animals for decades, it’s no surprise how they act. Israel is at fault for both sides deaths.

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No. Humans are more than their base instincts. Hamas should not have murdered civilians. The Israeli state apparatus should not be abusing Gazans. Both are true at the same time.

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8 points

Palestine isn’t Hamas. Hamas doesn’t represent all of Palestine

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3 points

It does however represent the group that killed 1000+ people, mostly civilians, with no clear goal beyond their stated desire for Jewish extinction and radical islamic Sharia law to be spread as far as possible.

Palestine in general being a victim doesn’t automatically make Hamas the good guys or their specific actions acceptable.

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2 points

Right, but more than one thing can be true at once.

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30 points

“It is hard to remember that people can be both victim and perpetrator at the same time.”

We try often try to assign one group as the good guys and the other as the bad guys. It doesn’t work like that.

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5 points

God especially on the internet, can’t have any nuance about “well you’re right, but that doesn’t mean personal responsibility just ceases to exist” it’s just “You’re as extreme as me or you’re on the other side

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Get yourself a lesson in History and don’t just repeat the old antisemitic bullshit story.

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The human cost of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (deaths/injuries) documented by the UN:

2008:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 3,202
Israel 🇮🇱 : 853

2009:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 7,460
Israel 🇮🇱 : 123

2010:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 1,659
Israel 🇮🇱 : 185

2011:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 2,260
Israel 🇮🇱 : 136

2012:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 4,936
Israel 🇮🇱 : 578

2013:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 4,031
Israel 🇮🇱 : 157

2014 :
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 19,860
Israel 🇮🇱 : 2,796

2015 :
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 14,813
Israel 🇮🇱 : 339

2016:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 3,572
Israel 🇮🇱 : 222

2017:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 8,526
Israel 🇮🇱 : 174

2018:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 31,558
Israel 🇮🇱 : 130

2019:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 15,628
Israel 🇮🇱 : 133

2020:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 2,781
Israel 🇮🇱 : 61

Source: Géopolia

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-28 points

Are these numbers civilian or combatant’s deaths/injuries? What was the background? Who attacked, who defended itself?

You know, numbers without context are nothing more than numbers.

As I said already, get some lessons in History.

KTHXBYE

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5 points

Seems like a fair and balanced fight

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16 points

Jfc the irony in your comment

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7 points

Criticizing Israel is not anti-semitism. I missed the part in the Torah that says “start an apartheid ethnostate and brutalize your neighbors”.

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1 point

Yes, because Palestinians are toddlers and have no agency or responsibility for their actions. So patronizing.

They’re adults. They’re responsible for what they did.

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2 points

And what did Palestine do to get the wrath of Israel?

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2 points

There’s been an unbroken streak of violence since 1948, when the Arab states refused to allow the partition and began an offensive war. This has been followed by other military attempts by the Arabs, supported by the Palestinians, until they finally lost decisively in the 1970s. That has been followed by five decades of intermittent terrorism and organized attacks.

I get wanting to criticize Israel. Their policies have been dog shit in many areas… but intentionally attacking civilians is something which Israel doesn’t need to tolerate.

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80 points

There is a prequel to this and the words Israel and Hamas are exchanged.

I’m no supporter of either and I don’t believe that killing civilians on either side will answer questions, it will only make matters worse.

As Gandhi put it … “An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth … leaves a world full of blind, toothless people”

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Gandhi was a total piece of shit pretending to be one of the good guys. Which I guess is pretty relevant to this conflict.

Also that quote is from Exodus.

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8 points

On a long enough timeline everyone is a piece of shit. You on the other hand, are one right now.

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-4 points

So?

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7 points

Ghandi suxx

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12 points

If you think Gandhi was bad, you should look into Mother Theresa - the woman was literally a Disney cartoon villain.

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5 points

I’m not convinced she wasn’t a sadist and got joy from the suffering of others.

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15 points

yes with all the nukes and stuff, a complete lunatic

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8 points

This guy Civs

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1 point

Can you like, provide some sources ? I want to read about it

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10 points

Only the eye for an eye was the bible, the world goes blind was Ghandi.

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12 points

I want both sides to lose at this point

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Let’s dig a very wide canal connecting the Dead Sea, Red Sea & Sea of Galilee to the Mediterranean… Maybe about 250 miles wide would do it

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9 points

Ghandi abused his wife regularly and ended up killing her by way of refusing to let her go to a doctor. I’ll not be accepting any of his quotes, thanks.

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7 points

I’m sure you’re chillin with Stalin and Lenin quotes tho lmaoo

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-9 points

Only for you, snowflake.

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15 points

The post doesn’t mention Hamas, it’s talking about the previous killings of people in gaza. Not everyone in Gaza is in support of Hamas

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45 points

As professor Farnsworth once said, “Now, now, perfectly symmetrical violence never solved anything”

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Gandhi on Zionism:

My sympathies are all with the Jews.

But my sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice.

Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct. The mandates have no sanction but that of the last war. Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home.

Edit: This was 1938, btw. 10 years before the Nakba.

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4 points

No, no, it’s heroic when Isreal does it

Cause reasons

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I’m not going to sit on a platform that has this low bar for dumb “memes” and world views with that high upvote number.

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3 points

OK goodbye 👋

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Yeah this meme doesn’t work for Hamas… the person being shot isn’t a child.

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