103 points

Policy holder: I’ve paid thousands over the years and you won’t help me until I pay another few thousands out-of-pocket first?

Insurance company:

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38 points

What the actual fuck is going on with this gif. It’s like high res, but 2 frames. It’s completely cursed

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Might be something weird on your end? Looks fine to me

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3 points

Haha, are you using liftoff too? It’s fast in liftoff but regular speed in the browser for me.

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2 points

Im using Thunder and it’s going lightspeed.

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If you really think about it, it is a scam.

You pay them and even if the thing you have it for happens, they’ll possibly deny you. If they don’t deny you, they’ll certainly raise your premiums.

I recently had a single car accident that was my fault and it cost a few thousand dollars to fix my car. Sure enough, the insurance company raised my premiums hugely. If I keep this insurance I will pay more than three times what it cost to fix my car over the next three years when a car accident is supposed to impact your premiums. What the hell is the point.

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34 points

medical bills and such have been raised to such levels that without insurance you’d be absolutely fucked. therefore, insurance has turned into an extra form of tax that goes directly to rich people instead of the government and the customers have to beg the rich people (with their terrible policies for claims and snakey “business practices”) to get some help back, without guarantee.

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17 points

the point is to earn profit, not help people in need

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14 points

The little known open secret is that you’re actually expected to change Car Insurance providers every few years (Especially after an accident!) in order to keep your costs down.

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10 points

When you file a claim, always switch insurance before the claim is satisfied. This way it’s not in the system for the new company to see. Old company still has to resolve the claim based on you having coverage with them on the date of the incident, and new company may very well never notice the filed claim after the fact.

Play their system against them as best you can

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9 points

You are paying for the chance that they step in and pay a portion of the financial load when it exceeds your deductible. How can this amazing opportunity possibly be a scam? (/s)

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8 points

that happens even if it isn’t your fault

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In principle requiring insurance is good. People are generally not great at allocating money to pay for freak disasters and the amount of money required to fix them is not evenly distributed. In many cases not having insurance means people going homeless or carless over expensive (but relatively minor in the grand scheme) accidents. Not to mention life insurance and paying out expenses for accidents where it’s your fault but you wouldn’t have enough money to pay.

It’s essentially a tax run by privatized companies that ensure a safety net for everyone. The issue is that the companies are perversely incentives to make a profit and deny the very claim you signed up for insurance for.

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The issue is that the companies are perversely incentives to make a profit and deny the very claim you signed up for insurance for.

You can regulate the industry to be fair.

The problem isn’t the insurance, the problem is that the insurance chas bought the regulators.

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There are two kinds of problems in terms of insurance, ones that can never be avoided and ones that in theory can be. It’s unlikely but possible to buy and drive a car and never once get into an accident until the car is gone. It is impossible to drive a car without oil changes and tire replacement. Accidents are covered and the unavoidable is not.

The human body will require medical care. This is unavoidable. This is why it should not be left to private insurance.

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I recently had a single car accident that was my fault… the insurance company raised my premiums

Lemmy moment.

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68 points

I paid for travel insurance recently and the very thing that I got it for happened and they STILL found a way to be absolute scum and deny my claims

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25 points

What company so I know not to waste my money on them?

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30 points

Coverwise and AXA Group

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9 points

Axa has shit life/annuity products too

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12 points

What was the “reason”?

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13 points

they didn’t elaborate on it, just kept telling me that my claim didn’t meet the requirements

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3 points

>refuses to elaborate further

>leaves you with the problem you paid to get helped with

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Insurance doesn’t actually help you silly. It’s just the fee you must pay to be allowed to register and drive your car. They just happen to call it insurance for some reason.

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31 points

Insurance does a fantastic job of making sure that the CEOs of the insurance companies make at least millions of dollars. Maybe that’s why they call it insurance?

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8 points

The bulk of that is not part of the minimum legal requirement though. My bill is less than $20, but that only goes towards paying for any damage my car causes others, I won’t get any payout. If you get insurance that pays to repair or replace your car, that’s separate and not legally required.

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2 points

so in other words, a subscription

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Nah, it does work generally. I’ve had to use it when I got in a car accident. I still think it shouldn’t be required tho

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I’d be surprised if you’re not kicked off Lemmy for this take. Heretic.

Health insurance (in America of course), got me thinking though. Shouldn’t risk be public instead of private? We still need it, and most of the bureaucracy that goes along, but why are private firms making a profit off public risk?

OTOH, we have to balance this idea. Why should fat drunks pay the same for health and auto, and get the same coverage, as fit, sober people? I don’t have the answer, but the question has to be addressed.

And if anyone objects to the comparison above, I’d bet a crisp $20 bill that you hold yourself above someone else because of your choices (and opportunities). Social media makes fun of meth heads, rednecks, stupid people, etc., without mercy. Same deal. If you’re a perfectly logical Vulcan, company excluded.

Hell, I’ll go under fire first!

  • I’ve been addicted to opiates several times after surgeries, broken bones, whatever. Thankfully I’m able to walk it off when the prescription runs out. Some cannot.

  • Started out as “bright normal” IQ, adjusted for age, I’m probably dipping below Gen Z average at 52.

  • Started as a city boy, now an edge-of-town, not-quite-country boy. Whatever.

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-13 points

What does medical insurance have to do with cars?

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9 points

Main post just says “insurance”. Doesn’t say what kind

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4 points

Same concept applies.

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3 points

Auto insurance pays your medical bills if you get injured in a car accident, at least in my state.

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47 points

Finding a reason not to pay is their job.

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