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checks which game is “best”

This list is 100% accurate.

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Morrowind is the best, but putting Oblivion above both Skyrim and FO3 (nevermind ESO and SF)? Hmmm…

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Yeah, I do love Morrowind. It’s one of my favorite games of all time. But I’m putting Skyrim, FO3, and FONV above Oblivion easily.

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“Yes.”

(Best)

Morrowind

Oblivion (New Vegas would tie here if Bethesda)

FO3

FO4

Skyrim

(Worst)

Didn’t click the link but this is the true order whether the link agrees or not. ESO/76 doesn’t even make my list and I’m behind on SF, haven’t played it yet, so it is left off as a “TBD.”

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Either the world’s standards are low or mine are high, none of these are very good compared to FNV

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FNV isn’t a Bethesda game.

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Weird that the author includes ESO. That’s an outsource game using Bethesda’s IP. They might as well include Fallout NV (which would of course top the list if it were included)

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How is ESO outsourced? It’s made by a studio within Zenimax that was basically created just for that game.

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I stopped playing ESO years ago after around 10,000 hours of playtime. It’s nice (or perhaps unsurprising) to hear that they still haven’t addressed how badly they messed up the story structure and pacing. Rather than have the expansions be an accessory to the main story and tutorial - they acted as replacements. A game design choice I’m 99.9% sure was made by management and not by any actual dev team. It was a confusing, convoluted mess with only a few expansions but I can’t imagine how bad it is now with even more.

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To be fair, ESO shouldn’t really be on this list. ESO was developed by Zenimax Online, not Bethesda Game Studios (Todd Howard’s team). It’s as close to Fallout or Starfield as Prey or Doom are (same publisher, different devs).

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It’s all a matter of personal taste. But yeah, Beth’s best games are definitely in the past.

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Yeah, as someone who hasn’t played Starfield and has no interest in playing it, all their criticisms were just saying they didn’t care for the style starfield was going for. Which is fine, but that doesn’t make it a bad game.

It could be that “NASA punk” is boring to 99/100 people, but that doesn’t mean a game in that style is bad. I think we can all agree that games that are enthralling to a very niche set of people are a good thing, because we all want that game to be for us. We don’t want or expect every game to be equally enthralling to every person.

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No don’t you understand? They gathered two other people, who work directly with them reviewing games the same way they do. If they don’t like it it means it’s a bad game. Obviously!

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For me, the “NASA punk” wasn’t the turn off.

Starfield could have been a great game. But the general route Beth has taken with Fallout, and continued in Starfield, doesn’t appeal to me. Pointless building filler, environmental storytelling over actual storytelling, radient quests everywhere and so on.

I have no doubt they’ll do the same with TES. Just half-assing it really. Skyrim was already pretty flat, so…

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Yeah, Morrowind was mind blowing when it came out. Then I skipped Oblivion, and Skyrim, mechanically, wasn’t that much of a leap over Morrowind. Sure it looked better and had voice acting, but it still feels like a static world. I wouldn’t consider Witcher 3 to be quite the same genre as TES, but imo W3 raised the bar for my expectations from Bethesda. So far I think they still have not made a game as good as W3.

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People will point at Skyrim and Morrowind to showcase how much better their older games were, but pretend Oblivion didn’t happen. :P

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Oblivion is my personal favorite so definitely up to personal interpretation.

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Yeah personally I reckon that Oblivion and Daggerfall are the two best TES games ever made - both are better than Morrowind, and significantly better than Skyrim.

I also reckon that Starfield will be up there with Oblivion and Daggerfall a couple years after the modding tools are released!

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Oblivion is the weird transition point, ngl.

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Personally I feel that way about Morrowind - mechanically it’s like a stripped down, worse version of Daggerfall while also being an inferior implementation of a fully 3d game than Oblivion.

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Of all the TES games Oblivion has aged the worst. If you didn’t play it at the time its really hard to be objective about it now. Too much Bloom and ugly potato faces combined with its floaty, clunky combat make it a chore to play today. Game had some great quest writing though and Shivering Isles is a GOAT expansion. It also has an undeniable, if somewhat unintentional, goofy charm to it that I love.

At the time a lot of Morrowind fans hated it for going against established lore and “dumbing down” the series, but it did well critically and was generally well received by the public. It got a lot of people, including myself, into the series. I went back and played Morrowind and loved it so I can see a lot of Oblivion’s weaknesses more clearly, but I still have a soft nostalgic spot for it in my heart.

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