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remember when there used to be all these articles about how people in europe live longer than americans because they drink red wine and eat more olive oil or bullshit like that? turns out it was universal healthcare the whole time

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Owning horses makes you live longer too. Or maybe it’s that only rich people own horses? Does putting the olive oil on the horses help at all? I’m down to try anything at this point.

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I’d be interested if anyone has ferreted out if that does make you live longer once adjusted for income. On the one hand you get a bunch of physical exercise and emotional bonding caring for the animal (moving hay, moving water, moving the horse, moving manure, etc.) which I suspect would still improve life expectancy. On the other hand I know plenty of folks who have been killed or ended up with serious spinal injuries due to riding accidents.

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On the other hand I know plenty of folks who have been killed or ended up with serious spinal injuries due to riding accidents.

Owning, not actually riding.

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On the one hand you get a bunch of physical exercise and emotional bonding caring for the animal

I see you have only met one subset of people who own horses.

We call them horse poor.

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I’m pretty sure the horses are supposed to put the olive oil on you, actually.

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4 points

Ur trying to live longer? I’m trying to speed run this shit, I’m gonna start smoking again when I’m 50.

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Classic “Post hoc ergo propter hoc”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

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108 points

walkability might also be a factor

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And diet and work safety and income distribution and the list goes on I’m sure

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37 points

Plus the red wine and olive oil

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Or maybe it’s because they study and ban food additives beyond finding the dose that causes immediate symptoms and don’t put an extremely strong industrial waste products in their drinking water (turns out the crap they put in the drinking water was poisoning the land when they dumped it in the rivers, and has been pretty convincingly linked to ovarian cysts and low testosterone while doing nothing for our teeth). Or maybe it’s just because they have better social cohesion and stronger worker protections.

But probably just the olive oil and red wine. And hey, all that stuff is complicated… Why not just buy the fancy expensive liquids at the grocery store? If you pay enough and do your research, you can even get olive oil that is legal to sell over there!

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4 points

Obviously

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14 points

We also don’t have 500 school shootings each year. At some point that has to have an impact on those stats.

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Even if you don’t take these deaths into account, this does something to the mental health I’m sure

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34 points

Universal healthcare and red wine, you savages.

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Nope. Turns out that people who can afford to relax with a glass of red wine were just in better health due to various socioeconomic factors rather than the wine itself.

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8 points

Feel like you’ve never spent time in southern Europe, friend.

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5 points

Where people are also healthier because of factors unrelated to drinking red wine.

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7 points

European centenarian hotspots are not located in the richest parts of Europe.

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The studies that postulated health benefits of wine weren’t either. Correlation doesn’t equal causation and the mistaken belief that wine makes you live longer is a classic example of mistaking the two.

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no, it turns out that political biases in the US are walls in the brains of either political leaning.

Look at the studies that concluded that moderate exercise, saturated fats, and red wine were contributing factors to the longevity and you’ll see that they did account for the socieconomic status and access to the healthcare. Everything else would’ve been a really, really bad study. Which you suggest it was without ever even looking it up.

But nevermind, maybe you could do a simple back-of-the-envelope analysis: southern/mideterranian Europe is where people live longest. Yet their GDP per Capita is like half of a representative northern countr. And their healthcare system is absolutely garbage in comparison as well. And yet they still live longer on average.

But, no, please, I’m sorry, I’m probably fascist for saying that, I probably vote for Trump and whatever other explanation your brain can find to not realize you’re wrong.

– Eurobro. (but absolutely would vote for Trump, he’d make Europe great again, trust me).

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147 points

It’s only universal healthcare when it’s made from the Universalis Healthcarus region of France, otherwise it’s just sparkling medicine.

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13 points

l’huile de serpent, if you want.

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5 points

You should sell that!

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Well yes, they have to come up with a spin in order to make sure people aren’t attributing these lifespan increases to socialism. Otherwise peasants might get rights, and we don’t want that do we?

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