149 points

One of the bosses at my work has a massive Fall Guy truck, and often has huge items delivered to work, just so he has an excuse to use it.

“You won’t get that in the back of a Fiesta”

That’s right dickhead, because we’d have the items delivered to our homes.

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92 points

Or, and hear me out, I can rent a truck for the one time a year I need one. 20 bucks for a few hours from uhaul vs… 20,000 more for a big truck over a commuter car.

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That’s what I keep thinking about. Like sometimes I would love an older, smaller styled truck. It could be really useful, but it sucks they aren’t really an option anymore.

But then I think about it, and how often would I use it? I just bought a TV and had to have it delivered because it wouldn’t fit in our car. We recently moved, and it would have been great.

But other than that, I honestly can’t think of any time recently I’ve needed it.

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16 points

I’ve thought that too. If they made a tiny truck, like an old style 90s ranger or tacoma but as an EV? I’d buy that tomorrow. Literally tomorrow I’d go buy it. But of course they don’t, they’re all these monstrously sized bohemoths that I have no interest in driving.

Until they make my dream tiny truck I’ll just go rent one.

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9 points

If practical a trailer is a good option. Get a tow hitch and just rent a trailer when you need. Moved house with my Suzuki and a 6x4 enclosed trailer.

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17 points

20k just for the cost of the vehicle, probably MORE, plus extra insurance, gas tax cost all to save 50$ once in a while on a truck rental.

Not to mention that a pickup is basically half a completely useless car. You can’t sit in the back, you can’t really use it for hauling delicate stuff… It’s just such a bizzare concept for non farmers.

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20 points

You’d be surprised what I fit in my Yaris hatchback

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11 points

I put a washing machine in the back of my Toyota matrix.

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10 points

For real I had a 2003 Hyundai Tiburon a while back. Went to a tool consignment store. Saw a full sized tablesaw with stand. Owner told me he’d give me $25 off if I could fit the whole thing in my Tiburon…and I did. And it wasn’t even hard.

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6 points

Fr; I have a tiny CRZ coupe, but when I fold the back buckets down I can fit a tremendous amount of stuff in my car, even awkward and unwieldy-shaped things

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5 points

I fold the seats down in my 12 year old BMW and have moved twice with that car! I even fit my mountain bike in the back many times (until I got a hitch rack because it was annoying lol).

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4 points

My Prius holds a surprising amount with the back seats down.

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2 points

Yaris ftw

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125 points

You may not like it, but this is what peak freight vehicle looks like

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20 points

Fr though kei trucks are sexy as fuck

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11 points

Freight? No.

You’d use a sprinter van for that.

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8 points

I would get one if they weren’t all right hand drive :(

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4 points

I’d get one if they were freeway legal everywhere

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8 points

I dont like it, I love it

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112 points

I had a supervisor that blew his entire OT and 401k on $90000 truck and proceeded to complain about how shit the gas mileage was.

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46 points

Oh, they would never put anything in it. That might scratch the bed.

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37 points

They brag about being able to carry stuff then get one of those stupid long cab short beds that are good at nothing

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34 points

Hey, they aren’t good at nothing. They excel at killing pedestrians.

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19 points

My Subaru Forester with a roof rack hauls almost anything short of large furniture or a yard of gravel.

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4 points

Hitch and a trailer is how I deal with that with my Crosstrek.

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Does the remaining 1% get resold by shady people in back alleys? “Hey you, you want a deal on 1% of some produce from a farmer’s market? Fell off the back of a Prius.”

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90 points
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My coworker lives in a downtown apartment with a cramped parking garage and bought a full size pickup to drive 1.5 miles to the parking garage at our workplace to write code. I’m embarrassed for them and keep telling them to buy a bicycle

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48 points

1.5 miles? Shit i’d just walk.

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28 points

Seriously, that’s a 20-25 minute walk. Perfect, natural exercise opportunity completely wasted!

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9 points

Not even worth taking the bicycle out.

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4 points

I’d probably bike it but I’m also lazy so…

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8 points

What a douche nozzle. I have to drive two hours each day and fucking despise it. Would love to be able to walk.

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7 points

Jesus. And I felt guilty for my commute only taking about 10 minutes down a highway. However, I didn’t have a choice because the only access to the industrial park where I worked was from that highway. I still felt bad about it.

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7 points

Even a Honda fit would be better!

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20 points

A Honda Fit would be marginally better. A bicycle would be vastly better.

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16 points

I wouldn’t know, riding a bike around here would be a death sentence. Roadrage can often end in a drive-by in Oklahoma if the news is to be believed and drunk driving is a pretty common sight in the area I live. There’s also no bike lane, usually no sidewalks and long stretches of road without a crosswalk in sight.

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8 points

Or you could choose chaos and badger him to get a Prius lol.

Nothing against Prius owners, they’re efficient and reliable cars.

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7 points
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Haven’t you’ve heard! Priuses are cool now. Who knew a major face lift and .5 more liters would change public opinions so much.

#Glovebox 😂

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4 points

They stopped making the fit.

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1 point

I know, sad days. They’re still sold in Europe and Asia if I remember right.

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1 point

No they did not, it’s still sold in Europe. New model came out recently too.

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3 points

Driving 1.5miles twice a day everyday is a sure way to drain the car battery and multiply the wear and tear on the engine. Short trips are fine occasionally, but sooner rather than later the check engine light will pop up.

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No? You anti car people know nothing about cars and it shows. Your alternator would have to be dead if it can’t charge the battery in a mile.

Short trips don’t damage the engine any more than normal wear and tear, it’s not like they’re redlining the entire mile and a half?

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5 points

It depends. The battery issue is a nonissue, but the short trip can absolutely have an effect. It takes longer for your engine to reach true operating temperature than the oil/water coolant to get to temp. There’s videos out there that can explain the equations for larger engines, but if the drive is less than 15 minutes, it’s likely he’s building up carboxylic acids from nonvaporized water in the pistons. That ain’t a good thing.

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3 points

I’ve owned many cars and ran a van hire company.

Look at the owners manual in your car, and it will say trips less than a couple of miles are considered severe duty, and the oil needs to be changed more often. Your can get condensation in the engine that can break down the oil faster.

Cold starts are where most of the wear and tear occurs.

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2 points

I believe it comes from a saying that most wear is in the first ten minutes of driving.

Which I also believe assumes you don’t “wait for the car to warm up”

That saying. I still find some truth to it. While modern cars can adjust fuel mixture to different conditions. There still is an unavoidable few minutes where the engine runs in an open loop and wear is greater.

That said, in my vehicle when I listen for the engine to “close” it happens in less than 5 minutes.

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2 points

This distance is perfect for an electric scooter, even basic Xiaomi M365 will do.

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-28 points

Why don’t you just let him enjoy what he wanted? If he wanted something else, he’d get something else?

The truck hate on lemmy is pretty cringe

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43 points

Having a vehicle that emits more pollution, does more damage to roads, and is more likely to kill pedestrians is pretty fucking selfish and deserving of hate.

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-9 points

Selfish? Bro get a fucking grip.

The responsibility of pollution is not on individuals. The pollution from mega corps compared to the every day man is a staggering exponential difference.

More likely to kill pedestrians? All vehicles can kill pedestrians. How is this even a talking point you idiots parrot back and forth.

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10 points

I don’t think it’s hate, more like second hand embarrassment.

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-6 points

@linux.community

Yeah I’d be embarrassed constantly if I was you too

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4 points

It suits most of us Americans well! Big, fat, slow, and ugly but full of potential which most of us will never realize! Just the way God intended.

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6 points

Stop using leaf bowers

I don’t.

Stop eating food not home grown

I don’t have the room or the skills to grow enough food to feed my family of three by myself.

Eat the rich

Sure, how do you propose I go about doing that?

Instead of judging trucks

Nah, I’ll still judge people who buy giant gas guzzling trucks and don’t use them for hauling things all the time.

And not little timmy for owning that v8 mustang

Guess what? I judge him too! Believe it or not, you can judge multiple types of vehicles that people own!

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72 points

I have lately been pretty convinced that 70% of pickup drivers don’t actually need a truck but instead use it to compensate their insecurity about their small dicks and their fragile masculinity.

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42 points

I can’t wait til we as a society get over shaming small dicks. I don’t have a dick but it’s cringy to me when people use “small dick” as an insult like this.

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30 points

For me it’s not so much trying to insult them for having a small dick, but insulting them for caring so much about having a small dick they feel the need to compensate.

Doesn’t matter that their dick is small, just that they’re so insecure about it they need to try and tell the world it’s not true.

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19 points

Well, you’re not exactly contributing to a world where that insecurity is eliminated. And besides, you’ll never win an emotional debate with rational arguments.

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For me it’s not so much trying to insult them for having a small dick, but insulting them for caring so much about having a small dick they feel the need to compensate.

It’s very weird that you care so much about the size of other men’s penis. It’s equally weird that you care what someone else drives.

Are we at a point in society where we can no longer do anything as long as some internet keyboard warrior doesn’t think we should?

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11 points

Two male apes park next to each other:

“You don’t fit into the sociocultural group I’m a part of, AKA THE BEST GROUP, because you are not sending the right social signals! Therefore YOU ARE NOT A VERILE MATE FOR THE HOMINID FEMALES!”

“NO! CLEARLY IT IS YOU WHO WILL NOT SEED THE NEXT GENERATION OF OFFSPRING! Based on all the information I’ve gotten about appropriate social signals for my gender, age, ethnicity, cult, location and socioeconomic status, I am displaying the appropriate signals! So I shall point at you and say WEIRD!”

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8 points

It’s not about actual small dicks, it’s just a symbol for insecure men

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6 points

Well, I kind of agree with you, but also what I intended to say is that I think most pick up drivers don’t feel masculine enough, whether it’s due to a small dick or something else making them feel like they aren’t “real men”, so they compensate their insecurity by driving unnecessarily large cars.

Yeah, I maybe should have left the dick part out. A man can have a small penis and still not be insecure, and a man with a huge one can still be insecure about their masculinity and try to fix that insecurity with a stupid truck.

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2 points

We’ll get over it when egos and genetalia lose any correlation.

Not that soon, I’m afraid.

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27 points

Absolutely. All you have to ask is why they need to own a truck and they instantly get overly defensive. I’m not saying there aren’t cases where you need to own truck but the vast majority of cases people bring up don’t even require a truck much less owning one.

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10 points

Let’s just get inspired by oats jenkins and his idea for redoing the traffic system and add a truck license, and you’ll have to renew it every six months, just so they don’t keep it forever

The license would be given to people that have genuine need for a vehicle like this, and don’t have access to one (so if your job gives you a truck you can have it, it would have the job license on it, but then you cannot have your own license)

Otherwise they would just tell you to go fuck yourself because you don’t need a truck like this

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13 points

I live in Europe where trucks are fairly rare but you still see large SUVs, 4x4s and vans around. My own feeling is that certain classes of vehicles should be considered commercial for the purposes of insurance, taxation, VAT, inspection, tolls, permitted usage and everything else. The legislation already exists for commercial vehicles so extend it to these kind of vehicles.

So is someone must have a stupidly oversized vehicle purely for personal reasons they can enjoy all the bullshit and restrictions that goes with it. Doesn’t stop them complying but making it more onerous to do it will take demand for these vehicles off the market entirely.

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20 points

Someone I work with has never not owned a truck, mostly because “they don’t need the hassle of renting one when they need to do yardwork and buy a fridge from the store” or something.

So spending an extra $20,000-$30,000 every 10 years is totally worth those occasional trips and avoiding renting a tailer/pickup from home Depot maybe twice a year.

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7 points

The $1,400 it cost me to buy a 5x10 utility trailer was money well spent. It has easily paid for itself over the years. I sold my last pickup years ago. If I need to use the trailer, it takes 5 minutes to hook it up. Having space to store it and a legit need for it are key factors here as well.

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0 points

Well at that price I’d argue it’s pretty reasonable, comparable to a used Toyota.

The pick up trucks I see on sale are closer to 60-80k.

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10 points

An extra $20-$30k, as in instead of a $30,000-$40,000 car or SUV they get a $60-$80k truck

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18 points

You fools! They’ll have to move some furniture 5 years from now then who’ll be laughing!!!

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15 points

The small business doing the hauling, because the truck owner won’t risk scratching the bed of their lovely pickup.

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17 points

Also, with large vehicles more generally, there’s this awful snowball effect where people go “I get to sit up high and it’s bigger, so I feel safer! Besides, when I’m in a regular car I feel like I’m going to get crushed like a beer can.”

This of course ignores that:

  1. Pedestrians are fucked
  2. With everyone buying bigger, heavier vehicles, the energy involved in most collisions is significantly greater and I doubt anyone’s much safer for it. People in smaller cars just get screwed.
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9 points

Also it’s an arms race. They feel safer because they’re comparatively above smaller cars, but then when everyone is riding tall trucks that additional feeling of safety becomes moot as you no longer have the additional height/visibility over everyone else.

And conversely, the reason they feel less safe in smaller cars is because of the comparison to larger cars on the road. They aren’t solving anything in a larger vehicle, they’re just perpetuating onto others what gave them small-vehicle anxiety in the first place.

The whole concept is stupid, basically.

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I have a truck to haul things. Trash, lumber, kayaks, bikes, and I’ve moved friends and family members at least 6 times. It’s a 1995 and it spends most of its time parked though, it’s not a daily driver. And I really dislike all the tall and massive trucks now. I want a bed that’s actually low enough to be accessible.

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8 points

I have one because I’m 6’ 7" and I don’t fit comfortably in much. One of my managers is super small, but drives a lifted Ram. I have yet to see him get into it but it must be funny to see.

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7 points

70%

That seems low.

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4 points

Coworker straight up admits he feels safe in his truck, he feels like he gon die if he drives a smaller car

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3 points

I don’t even drive any vehicles. What’s that supposed to mean?

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17 points

Dong is infinite

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3 points

Probably going to get hit.

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2 points

Btdt on the bicycle.

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2 points

I only need a truck to haul stuff a few times a month. But that’s often enough.

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1 point

Did you at least buy a smaller truck with the same bed size? or a van?

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2 points

I drove smaller trucks for about 20 years. I actually just got a small cargo van (NV200), but still have my Colorado after the dealership offered me $100 in trade-in.

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0 points

You can just say fragile masculinity without the body shaming

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I have a pickup. My wife says she likes my penis size. I question your hypothesis. Today, I used it to haul fire wood and tow a broken down ATV. Yesterday, I brought kayaks up to my family cabin. It gets used. Pre-COVID, it was part of the first leg of my commute. I’m not going to have a separate vehicle just to drive to the train station. That’s absurd.

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6 points

Lol not only do you have poor reading comprehension, you have also failed to get anyone to believe what you just said. If i may provide some advice, if someone say something on the Internet that doesn’t apply to you you do not have to get offened by it. Have a nice day friend.

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0 points

You:

you have poor reading comprehension

Also you:

if someone say something on the internet… you do not have to get offened.

I don’t like trucker hate. Owning the most popular vehicle in the US doesn’t make people compensators. It makes them practical.

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2 points

Hauling firewood and towing an ATV with your penis is quite impressive. I think it’s more proper to call it the third leg of your commute, though.

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1 point

People who need a pickup truck to haul their humungous penis are few and far between

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I want a pickup truck because they are very aestetichally pleasing to me

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8 points

People can down vote you, but they can’t argue with this.

You must be the only pickup driver in existence that’s figured out that all your pathetic justifications can be debated, but your opinion on what you want cannot be.

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Sure it can. A large vehicle is more likely to kill someone outside of the car. So, by unnecessarily choosing to purchase a large vehicle, you are needlessly increasing the chance of killing someone else.

Not to mention the climate impacts.

To be clear, the fact that you want a pick up truck can’t be debated, but whether you should be allowed to purchase one and use it on a public roadway, solely because of your desire to have one- is another thing.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tall-trucks-suvs-are-45-deadlier-us-pedestrians-study-shows-2023-11-14/

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they can’t argue with this.

Yes I can. For the same reason I would argue against someone saying they want a faulty muffler because the sound is very aesthetically pleasing to them. Your sense of beauty doesn’t come at the expense of everyone else.

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I’m the same, i like the way my truck looks. Is it great these days? Nope it’s an old 08 with a little rust, ok a lot but hush, i love it anyway. Do i need a truck 97% of the time? Nope but that 3% of the time i do its amazing. And those people i pull out of random ditches in the winter will appreciate it I’m sure.

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