“You must be a legal resident of Iowa and the precinct you live in and bring a photo ID with you to participate,” the state Republican party said on Friday in a post on the social media platform X.
The party is scheduled to hold local gatherings, known as the Iowa Caucus, on Jan. 15 in which participants will vote for their choice for the Republican candidate to run in November’s presidential election. U.S. President Joe Biden is expected to be the Democratic Party’s nominee.
The state Republican Party posted its reminder after Casey DeSantis, appearing on Fox News with her husband, the governor of Florida, called on women from across the country to join the gatherings, saying, “You do not have to be a resident of Iowa to participate."
Behind every dumb cardboard cutout of an alt right candidate is a suffering wife who has no idea what’s going on and just wants to order Thigh food.
And has realized that she left nothing behind… Other than compliance to Her Man…
Some like it like that, eh?
Republicans: “We’re attacked with illegal votes!”
De Santis wife: “Non-residents, vote for us.”
Took me, a non-US citizen, a while to get the joke.
Sort of, poster left out the key quote that triggered the post from the Republican party:
“We are asking all of these moms and grandmoms to come from wherever it might be, North Carolina, South Carolina, and to descend upon the state of Iowa,” said Casey DeSantis, who has been promoting a “Mamas for DeSantis” coalition as she campaigns for her husband.
So non-resident in this context would be out of state.
Shitty that they have to bring photo ID, which poorer people disproportionately do not have.
As a non American it’s kinda wild that
A: you don’t need ID to vote
B: not everyone has ID, like, how do you get a bank account or drive or go to school or change a cheque or get benefits or buy beer or anything?
C: getting an ID is so difficult that requiring one is controversial.
ID is not issued by the federal government. It’s typically issued at the state level. As far as the bank account goes, most poor Americans are locked out of the banking system. Many poor Americans cannot afford a car. Etc…
Here’s a brief summary of the physical and financial obstacles. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/challenge-obtaining-voter-identification
All this shit adds up. Then you have to understand the same people who have to jump through all these hoops for an ID likely have to way half a day in line to vote. The same people pushing for voter ID laws in the US are closing polling places in these people’s neighborhoods to make it even more difficult. These are people who can’t afford to take half a day to get ID or another half a day to wait in line to vote. Because the if they miss work they’ll lose their job or be unable to make rent for the month.
People on the left are not opposed to voter ID requirements, we’re opposed to implementing more burdens on people who already struggle with the logistics of voting.
Make the required identification 100% free and cover the costs of any documents and time needed to get it and I’m all for it. But barriers for legitimate voters are antidemocratic and a very dark part of US history.
ID is not required in my State. If you don’t have ID, you can sign a sworn affidavit saying who you are and they have to let you vote with that.
Government needs to be able to trust the sworn statements of citizens, absent some articulable evidence why it should not be trusted. There should be no penalty for not having ID, if you don’t have an ID and your affidavit is perjurious, the penalty still isn’t not voting, it’s a criminal charge for offering a false instrument; even if there is a state law on such ballot fraud, the penalty still isnt, like, recounting the vote and subtracting one (unless it’s caught before it’s certified), it’s the criminal charge. Elections need to be short and sweet with a clear end result.
In my state, it’s $10 for a non-driver state issued ID card. However, the offices you need to visit in person have limited days and hours that they are open, meaning some people can’t afford to take the time off of work to do so.
If for some reason they don’t already have supporting identifying documents like a social security card, it could take multiple steps and visits.
Minor fees for some. It’s often the paperwork, time, proof of id, and locations that become the barrier. We don’t have national IDs here, but use a stupid Social Security Number that was never designed for the purpose and is literally sequential at birth. This makes proof of identity a task.
It was almost $40 just to renew my DL in my county. I swear it wasn’t as much in the last county I lived in, but it was just insane.
There’s usually discount programs for low-income folks, but the interesting part is needing proof of being low-income. Sometimes homeless shelters will transport people and help them fill out the paperwork and they have vouchers for the fee.
It’s crazy that all of that is needed when every data broker and arm of the government knows what you had for breakfast yesterday, but you still have to jump through this many hoops yourself to get something with your name on it.
Hinest question. Without ID how do you know who they are? How do you know they haven’t already voted?
I hear that argument all the time and I don’t buy it. You need photo ID to get a job, have a bank account, see a doctor, get a prescription, buy smokes/alcohol/adult video games/legal weed, drive a car, and by extension have insurance, rent a place to live, get a mortgage.
The only significantly large group who don’t do any of that are the Amish.
In many states you have to present multiple forms of ID to get ID. Its a catch 22 in many places that disproportionately affects lower income people. If you lose your ID in Florida, depending on your residency status and whether the Tax Collector’s office is enforcing rules, you may have to present birth certificate or a Social Security Card. To get a copy of your Social Security Card, you have to have a valid photo ID. Birth certificates require a permanent residence, access to online payment (bank account), and internet access to the right websites.
A lot of lower income people don’t have mortgages, drive, see medical professionals regularly, etc. Part of that is because of the barriers to easily getting a replacement ID that exist.
I worked with these individuals for years, and the amount of burden that it put people under was immense. In just my location alone I helped hundreds of people each year navigate government systems to get ID and aid. Its laughable how hard it is for the people wbo need help to access the programs that are currently in place.
I think the main problem is that IDs accepted by banks are not always valid for voting. I remember that in some state gun permit was valid for voting but student ID wasn’t. It’s all designed to skew the results just so slightly. Also, 5% of Americans don’t have a bank account. In close elections those numbers matter.
How old are you that you still get carded for cigarettes? What doctor do you go to that requires photo ID? You do not always need photo ID to rent a place. You are just making half that shit up.
Definitely concur that half that list is made-up. The key point they’re missing is that nothing on that list is a right bestowed upon us. It shouldn’t cost you money in order to vote in an election.
I have been required to show a photo ID for all of those things regularly throughout my entire life. Maybe you haven’t, and maybe some people don’t, but I have in several states.
I don’t smoke, but I stand behind people in line getting carded ALL THE TIME.
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I own a place that I rent out. You want to rent from me. You need an Id so I can check your background. No id? Hit the road.
There’s a whole bunch of comments explaining how low-income people aren’t able to do those things either, especially banking, and how that adds to the cycle of poverty. For anyone actually interested in an answer about what life is like for impoverished working people in the US, I would recommend reading Nickel and Dimed by Barbara Ehrenreich and Evicted by Matthew Desmond. The level of poverty that exists in America generally is, and should be, shocking to the average American. I really hope the Amish comment is a joke because it’s so so incredibly wrong.
And I’m saying I don’t buy the argument that there is any significant number of people who want to vote, really, sincerely want to vote, but gosh darn, they just can’t get ID.
In a world where you need ID to do pretty much anything.
None of the things you just said are, or even should be, prerequisites to vote.
It had its own penalty. Iowans don’t like non Iowans participating in their caucus. He will definitely lose votes.
Other than the primaries, what else do they have?
Corn?
Let them have their thing.
I’m usually not one to mock someone for their appearance, but people who bed with fascists get little sympathy from me.
Holy shit that makeup looks terrible.
The first thing I did when I saw the thumbnail was google pictures of her to see if her makeup is always that bad. Turns out, it’s almost never good, but this is a particularly bad look. Whoever does her makeup (maybe her) is doing so many things that make her look like a cartoon witch, which is kind of hilarious tbh, since she sucks.
Maybe it’s because my phone is on the lowest brightness setting, but it looks much better to me than I was expecting after your comment.
Looked again with regular brightness, and aside from her being a little older, her makeup looks fine. Her nose looks a little weird, like it was redone surgically. But better than the airhead tan blonde fake-lipped bimbos you usually associate with republicans.
I went to Google to see for myself and I found this article about her eyebrows https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/07/casey-desantis-eyebrows-sparked-important-national-debate.html
I would feel bad about her bad makeup if she wasn’t so supportive of ol’ pudding fingers
