All other countries without sideloading mandates
We’re as shitty as we’re legally allowed to be
- Apple
Technology isn’t to enable users to do what they want, but to let corporations do what they can get away with.
Speak for yourself; I use Free Software.
I finally made the plunge to Linux desktop for all work in 2016 and have not looked back (and occasional windows VM, extremely rare now.) Even Arch is now perfectly fine as a workstation which surprised me. Recommend EndeavourOS to streamline the install process but it’s Arch underneath.
From the perspective of the people who make the crap, corporations are the users.
To be fair that’s not limited to Apple. Any company will follow the law to the letter, and lobby to change the law in their favour.
To be even fairer, corporations have no inherent “right” to exist, and in fact should not be allowed to exist unless they’re acting ethically and serving society.
Android is not a company though, it’s FOSS. Google could ban it on their branch I suppose.
Google does indeed use Google Play Services to gate-keep the Ecosystem while keeping Android technically FOSS. Still better than Apple in this case, but hey… would you rather be hanged or beheaded?
So? Companies can and have removed features like that at the behest of some dickwad in power. Don’t take anything for granted. We need to heavily regulate them. Or hell take games. Capcom is currently adding DRM to 12+year old games. Garbage like that should be forbidden by law instead of relying on shitstorms to get companies to comply.
Despite not being forced by governments, no android phone uses a shitty proprietary charger port, nor have they ever. And last night I discovered side loading is possible on my fucking google TV device. Again, no laws require this, it’s just called not being a fucking prick.
Not always. Consumers given choice they should go for the product that is best. That way companies have to make the best product. That’s competition working.
Like when ps3 offered free online but xbox didn’t. That killed the xbox market as everyone could choose a similar product that was cheaper.
Or when apple forced everyone to use their products people went to the Samsung because you could do what you want. That killed apple.
Or when some companies offered subscription model like Microsoft Office, everyone went to alternatives and that killed Microsoft Office.
Honestly I blame people. We had all the information and just laughed in the face of reason. We are choosing to spend more for a shittier product.
I honestly don’t get why people use apple. People have explained it to me and I think I just don’t get the reasoning.
People would tell me on the age of illegally downloaded or someone legally bought mp3s apple was better because you can’t play your mp3s you have to buy them again off apple. Or that apple is better because you can’t use something and instead have to use apples device which isn’t as good and more expensive but it’s white! Like I can’t get a fucking white one.
The walled garden is shit. Apple makes me angry.
People would tell me on the age of illegally downloaded or someone legally bought mp3s apple was better because you can’t play your mp3s you have to buy them again off apple
Idk why people told you that but it’s never been true. iPods didn’t give a shit where the mp3 came from, only that it was loaded via iTunes.
From Apple’s perspective it’s not shitty, it’s part of their brand. Apple products are all about stupid proofing. Its hard to fuck it up, its hard to download a malicious app or virus. Preventing side loading protects people who don’t know what side loading is. Believe it or not that’s the majority of users. Side loading wont effect profits but thats because the large majority of their customer base will never use it. Those of us who want it are a vocal minority trying to screw up their entire business strategy, so of course they won’t give it to us unless they are forced to do so.
From Apple’s perspective it’s not shitty
No shit.
From Hitler’s perspective, he was saving Germany too. Why would I give a shit about that perspective?
Maybe it will help you be less pissy about something you cant change. Accept the fact that Apple will never change due to this fundamental business strategy and move on to a company that doesnt rely on babying their mindless customers. Or I dunno, fuck it, keep pissing in the wind and crying about smelling bad.
Apple products are all about stupid proofing.
Where do we draw the line between a functioning computer and chromebook? an IoT device? Stupid-proofing should not come at the cost of basic functionality.
Preventing side loading protects people who don’t know what side loading is.
No, it does not. Users attempting to sideload an app would obviously be warned, not to mention various other methods of malware scanning / sandboxing which can alleviate that non-existant issue.
Those of us who want it are a vocal minority trying to screw up their entire business strategy.
Creating Fisher Price computers is not a valid business strategy, and serves as a detriment for all users regardless of proficency. User freedom is beneficial for absolutely everyone.
True but don’t try Tinder dating with an Android phone, lol. Apple products get you dates!
https://www.garnerstyle.com/2023/07/tech-wars-why-some-women-think-android.html
It absolutely is a valid business strategy, Apple has been winning with this strategy for like 15-20 years now. Their shit IS Fisher Price computers and Fisher Price phones and ALWAYS HAS BEEN. Most people are fucking dumb and it is designed specifically for them. So for the love of god go buy something else. Please. I’m begging you and everyone else who thinks they are smart - STOP BUYING APPLE STUFF! Like holy shit do something inconvenient for once
Users attempting to sideload an app would obviously be warned, not to mention various other methods of malware scanning / sandboxing which can alleviate that non-existant issue.
Hope the sandboxing is really strong.
Vulnerable people can be walked through malware installations over the phone, or via guided workflow.
Also, naughty nations/employers can pre-load spyware onto devices they require people to use.
Definitely excited to see what the best use cases are but will await headlines this year about misuse.
Shouldnt have exited from the EU ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
One thing I’ve learned living in a conservative state in the US is that everything is my fault by proxy
I should just be rich enough to move, how hard can it be
How do all those immigrants move, though? Are they all secretly rich? Or are you, in fact, just comfortable enough not to want to move?
rich enough to move
Just so we’re clear, you’re simultaneously too rich to move (like a Guatemalan farmer) and too poor to move (like a IT graduate)?
Time to start the rejoin in only another 10 years or so I think. We’ll be voting on single market membership again before the decade is out I think.
Just shows that an eight year old iPhone is still reliable today, receives updates and the approved apps work perfectly fine on it!
brexit went great huh?
The people who voted Brexit weren’t concerned about their ability to side load apps
Following the last few years the list of topics they were concerned with is growing very slim.
Well they were basically only ever really concerned about two things (immigration and muh sovereignty), they didn’t give a shit about anything else, they’d even say it would be worth the UK going backwards for decades to get out of the EU.
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Canada and UK act all haughty about being superior to the US but we have MAGA here and the UK has similar, and there is a reason they are called TERF island.
the UK has similar
Our idiots are idiots - they aren’t insane idiots. MAGAts can only happen in a country without universal mental health care.
Nah, that’s Australia. Australia and the US are closer allies than UK and the US.
I read that linguistically, Australian English is closer to American than British versions. Having never yet been there but occasionally having a Violet Crumble when available, I can believe it.
Thanks, brexit. yet another win 🙄
Imagine buying a piece of hardware and actually owning it.
If these supported phones I actually wanted I’d consider it. Even better if they weren’t a pain in the ass to install.
I recently installed GrapheneOS on a pixel 7 pro. Waaaay easier than lineageOS. As long as you have the drivers installed on your pc and opposable thumbs, it’s a breeze.
blah! Android forks!
postmarket os is where it’s at!
or Ubuntu Touch if you’re… that type of person.
Would have been nice if they actually shipped devices to people who paid.
They finished shipping their backlog of Librem 5 crowdfunds and preorders last year…
I’m not sure what you mean, but they do ship devices. Whether or not they are interesting is another topic.
I will be taking my shit to the grave! Fuck, that’s literally giving it back to the Earth.
Imagine buying a piece of hardware knowing full well that doesn’t work the way you want it to and then bitching that it doesn’t work the way you want it to
There are no phone OSes that work the way we want, so we should just never say anything, as consumers?
If you can’t find an OS that works for you between android, iOS, the multitude of custom android roms, symbian, and Manjaro on the pinephone, then I suggest you either stop being so picky or make your own.
