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You do not play for fun. You do it to inflict pain.

75 points

Nyeh.

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47 points

That’s an expensive one turn kill. About 2.500€ going by cheapest listing on cardmarket. Of which Channel and Fireball contribute about 0,04€ to the grand total.

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23 points

It’s certainly more than that. That lotus and mox are in great condition. I think 2500 euros for an unlimited lotus in that condition would be an absolute steal. I’d put this specific opener closer to the price of a new car

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14 points

Hey man. Don’t breathe on my retirement fund.

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12 points

Nah, the Lotus and Ruby are both fake. Look at the corners on the Channel and Fireball, the way they’re cut is what real cards look like. The Lotus and Ruby have perfectly round corners which is an obvious sign of a fake card.

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3 points

Oh sure. I just went for the same card, not the exact same edition with the same condition. Just cheapest listing.

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27 points

Look, if you had lotus, fireball, mox, and channel in your opener you deserve to win that game

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29 points

If you’re even known to own a Lotus nobody will even come near you. It’s been enough to keep me safely separated from the game for decades. It’s kind of like having a nuke in your sidecar.

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I feel like if anyone in my playgroup ever got one we’d let them keep it in the deck until they get a real satisfying win from it, then either they take it out or everyone is allowed a proxy of it. Or possibly a ‘special occasion’ card like their birthday or if they’ve had a rough week and just need a win. I’ve also been known to keep some messed up cards in my side board in case someone joins our pod and they end up being an asshole, I can swap out and get them to pick up their ball and go home

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Until a man is twenty-five, he still thinks, every so often, that under the right circumstances he could be the baddest motherfucker in the world. If I moved to a martial-arts monastery in China and studied real hard for ten years. If my family was wiped out by Colombian drug dealers and I swore myself to revenge. If I got a fatal disease, had one year to live, devoted it to wiping out street crime. If I just dropped out and devoted my life to being bad. Hiro used to feel that way, too, but then he ran into Raven. In a way, this is liberating. He no longer has to worry about trying to be the baddest motherfucker in the world. The position is taken.

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I played in an “illegal deck” tourney many years back, probably around Fallen Empires release, so the card pool was still relatively small and power cards weren’t commanding the premium they do today. The rules called for a minimum 40-card deck but no limit or restrictions to any cards. I played decks that were literally just lotuses, mountains, channels, and fireballs and i frequently lost first turn. The deck i always think about from that tourney was composed of time walks, ancestrals, timetwisters, lotuses, sapphires, rubies, and ball lightnings. He would just keep gaining cards and playing more lotuses etc, take extra turns, throw a ball lightning at you, end turn, rinse and repeat. At least it took a minute to lose the game against him, lol!

I had a crappy deck loaded with Llanowar elves, giant growths, and the 1 berzerk i had. I only found out about the tourney after i got to the show, so it was just slapped together onsite with whatever i could find from vendors. It didn’t matter in the end–the deck didn’t stand a chance…but I’m glad i played–even if only to see some of these stacks of rare cards getting shuffled game after game without sleeves ಠ_ಠ

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3 points

My favorite version of the anything goes 40 card deck is a lot like the one you’ve described, but it swaps ball lightning for brainstorm and wins by making your opponent draw their entire deck into their hand and then passing the turn.

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3 points

A 4-card combo sounds pretty difficult to pull off. Also, 3 of those cards are banned or restricted, depending upon what format you’re playing.

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2 points

In the original rules there was no limit to how many of a card you could put in your deck.

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2 points

20 Lotus, 20 Timetwister, 1 Fireball

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Those three cards are banned/restricted because of this combo.

The point is to ensure you can pull it off by jiggering your deck specifically around having a high or guaranteed chance of having one each of these in your initial draw.

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46 points

This happened to me last night. I know how to play MTG already but two of my friends are literally in another league. They bring their super expensive, mega curated, hyper optimized decks and laid waste to me and my other friend who is a lot better than me. It was basically just the other two playing each other and I honestly got pretty butthurt. I don’t always get to have us all together, and we aren’t always in the mood to play MTG, so when the planets aligned and we all did, they just came to obliterate us. Cool, glad you had fun I guess but I sure as fuck didn’t. Yeah, it’s great to hang out and talk etc, but a novice playing a grand master isn’t very enjoyable. I asked them to bring chiller decks next time because otherwise I’d rather just watch a movie.

Anyway, comic: relatable.

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19 points

Fuck pub stompers. I can only imagine their little brittle egos not being able to handle playing a weaker deck against a beginner.

I hope this hasn’t ruined all the interest in the game for you

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10 points

I know some really good MTG players but whenever I play with them they bring multiple of their good decks(and more casual ones also) and are always happy to share.

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10 points

Alternatively, allow everybody to use proxy decks. Then they can have their fun with their decks and you have enough forepowers to fight on fair footing

Unless the problems is also that you are not that experienced at MTG, but since you said you know how to play, this could be an alternative

But in any case, yeah, they should have taken into account everyone else’s fun, for sure

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10 points

They probably didn’t really have fun either, at that point you don’t play to have fun, the fun stopped for them a long time ago. The only thing left is the hollow thrill of owning competitio to stoke your ego and not feel like a complete looser who spent thousands of dollars and countless hours you’ll never get back taking a children’s card game seriously. Real friends that actually care about other people know how to hold themselves back so everyone can have fun (until the shit talking starts from that one mf and you gotta take the gloves off)

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7 points

I have some friends like that, and we play commander so pay to win is always a thing. My GF and I have a precon each and we talked with those friend and now all of us have a precon te be in an closer level than “rat infinite combo vs hobbits precon.”

With some time we have improved our main decks to be more capable of standing. But we are not close yet xd.

You did the right thing talking to them and saying that if they don’t chill out it will be not funny for half the table.

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1 point

Do you allow proxies in your playgroup?

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When I was a young lad my friends’ brothers were regularly part of our matches and would absolutely stomp us every time because they actually had jobs to buy individual rares to complete their decks, or would constantly dupe us out of any good rares we’d come across with the booster packs we got from our weekly allowance by offering a whole bunch of shitty rares and making us think it was a good trade, or doing the same thing to get us to put them up as ante for a round before stomping us and collecting their winnings.

Absolutely predatory. There should be laws against the shenanigans they pulled on us.

Also, we’d all play these big “fast mana, fast draw” games sometimes where you always draw till you have 8 cards, and could play every land from your hand during your turn. Sometimes there’s be like 6 people playing at the same time. They’d build these “suicide” decks with cards like hurricane that did X damage to all players, and pair them with protections to absolutely slaughter the entire playing field before we could even get anything good into play. Absolute psychopaths.

Still some of the best times of my life.

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2 points

Just tell them you’ll only play modern format and no legacy.

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30 points
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7 points

A classic :)

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7 points

You beat me to it! Only thing I thought of when I read this.

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24 points

Believe in the heart of the cards. Minmax the fuck out of your deck.

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16 points

Screw the rules, I have money!

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20 points

This was me trying to learn MTG. I gave up with the quickness.

Played D&D back in the 80s, weird and complex rules aren’t strange to me, but just couldn’t get MTG.

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24 points

Ignore the other person, and save your sanity. Just ignore MTG altogether.

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5 points

MTG Arena has some lower power game modes that are nice.

“Jump in” where you get to pick two half decks and combine them to make a weird deck. They even have “Jump in” with lord of the ring cards. “Draft” Where you you make a deck by picking cards out of like 8 packs, so your deck is always going to be unique and janky and lower power, since it’s not the best combo cards from 10 different packs. “Starter duel” Where players pick one of 10 decks to play against each other, and the decks change.

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