OnlyFans and high school teacher absolutely do not mix. There is a 0% chance one will be able to properly educate students in that environment.
Her students aren’t old enough to view OnlyFans, so why would it make any difference?
Yes because “I’m 18!” Really works, (or most parental controls.)
I was 8 or 9 when I discovered my dad’s password book. Kids can and will find a way.
So she should get punished because the kids aren’t being properly supervised at home?
OnlyFans and high school teacher absolutely do not mix. There is a 0% chance one will be able to properly [indoctrinate] students in that environment.
There, fixed that for you!
Most adults are perfectly capable of siloing different parts of their lives, especially between work and personal lives.
But I can see you’re probably not part of most adults and therefore it MUST be impossible for everyone else…
Most adults
We are talking about highschool students here. You think they will be able to properly learn in such an environment?
Ah I get it now, you must be one of those school administrators who implements asinine dress codes for girls because “It’s too distracting for the boys”
They’ll learn just fine. Not to mention the myriad of ways of doing OF in a way that prevent IRL identification. Hell, OF has profile geo blocking as a built in feature lmao
You think they will be able to properly learn in such an environment?
Why wouldn’t they? In middle school one of the teachers (a long time ago) did some porn and I saw the pictures. It didn’t affect my ability to learn. Seeing boobs didn’t magically make my brain stop working.
If only we paid them a living wage so they wouldn’t have to seek additional income to survive.
If only we paid them a living wage
ST. LOUIS…Her yearly teaching salary was $42,000
In 2016, the median household income in the City of St. Louis was $42,000. source (expand the dropdown: What does this indicator measure’)
She made as much teaching as the median household income in the area by herself (completely ignoring the rest of her household). Since when is that not a living wage?
You try living on 42k/year in a metropolitan area and tell me how it works out for you.
Hello!
I couldn’t get your link to work to check your source, but data commons said the median personal income for St Loius in 2022 was around 35k.
I believe the data came from the US census, so it includes students and retirees. It is probably safe to assume that household median has gone up since 2016.
She probably earned a living wage, but not the living comfortably wage I believe teachers deserve. (Not trying to start an arguement, just trying to be helpful.)
Have a good day!
Dude.
Several years from now you’ll be able to tell your phone to make a sexy video of your school librarian, a toaster, and a maths equation. How will anyone get anything done?
As a society we need to realise that producing questionable material is not shameful, and consider I stead that accessing compromising content concerning the school librarian may be appropriate.
If you just read the article, though, you will see that her new job has nothing to do with teaching. She was fired for “violating the social media policy” after five days, she says they won’t elaborate further.
She says she was also up-front about her side gig. But how exactly do you put your OnlyFans experience on your resume? “Internet Personality”?
Right, teachers should not be human and exist on any sexual level. They should be automatons devoting their every second of life to their students for 42K a year.
Give me a break.
There is a 0% chance one will be able to properly educate students in that environment.
The high school teacher probably wasn’t using OnlyFans as a teaching platform. Those were two completely different environments.
It feels like she knew she would get fired from this new job, leverage it nationwide articles and get even more subscribers to her OF page. She even references the teaching gig in her bio, and the new job in her latest posts.
Maybe. It doesn’t matter. Jobs shouldn’t be able to fire you because you get naked on the Internet, which requires you to pay to even see in the first place.
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@meep_launcher@lemm.ee made a great point about teacher/student dynamics and I can agree with that in most circumstances (e.g. the students are underage). I still think it’s ridiculous for her second, non-teaching job to fire her.
Eh I disagree with some jobs. Teachers are supposed to be role models to students and keep certain things private.
The problem is we aren’t paying teachers adequately for that. It reminds me of essential workers during the pandemic. If we need these people so badly, or we’re asking them to be role models and be private about certain things, then we should be paying them much, much more.
Is it, in your eyes, morally wrong to sell naked photos of yourself?
The porn industry has many, many problems, and OnlyFans has just recently been targeted by an investigative piece by Reuters journalists for doing little about people using their platform to sell non-consensual nude pictures, or even videos of rape, but as long as you yourself are doing it of your own free will, I don’t see the problem, even if you are a teacher.
Even if teachers are supposed to be role models for students which I think is debatable it certainly is not applied outside the classroom. They will never be paid enough in any world to warrant them crafting their entire being as if they are some K-pop idols.
Gonna get roasted for this, but why?
I think it’s pretty reasonable for an employer to fire someone for posting racist things on the Internet. I think we can all agree on that. Actions outside of work can have an effect on work and so I think it’s reasonable to make employment decisions based on how the employer acts outside of work. I would argue racism is morally wrong and sex work is not, but I don’t think it’s possible to define employment laws in a way that fits a universal moral code.
I love the protected classes we have for employment now: age, gender, color, religion, etc. I think these protections are valuable to employees everyone, and I think they make sense because they don’t affect your ability to do the job. I having “does sex work on the side” on this list makes much less sense.
I think many, maybe even most, jobs wouldn’t be affected by an employee having an onlyfans, and so in my opinion someone shouldn’t get fired for it most of the time. But I think there’s a clear line between the protected classes and people who post on onlyfans.
Simple answer. Most of us (and most of the world) thinks At-Will employment is barbaric.
It is entirely reasonable to require some substantive effect to warrent termination, even if that substantive effect is not directly the teacher’s fault. Her having an onlyfans account, not grounds for firing. Her onlyfans account passed around by students? Grounds for termination.
There’s a (not so new) trend in the US for companies to crack down on side gigs. Yes, sex work is a politically charged side-gig, but we shouldn’t ever be supporting a company’s right to fire people having side-gigs without a very good reason. So long as your side-gig never encroaches into your day job in any real (not hypothetical) way, there really isn’t a good reason.
I’m a teacher and they specifically have guidelines on what you’re behavior online should be. Keeping your socials clean. Making sure my interactions with students are kept professional.
The fact is that kids these days are nosey and great researchers. Having an only fans as an educator has a huge risk of students discovering it, and will ultimately change the relationship between student and teacher from a student/ teacher relationship to a viewer/ pornstar one.
We need a hero, to link this OF
Just google her name from the article and go to her Instagram. The linktree is in her bio.
Hell, it’s just her name briannacoppage
The important piece of this to me is this: She made $1 mil on OnlyFans and $42k/year as a teacher. She wants to be a teacher despite making plenty of money from other sources. This tells me that unless you have other evidence of impropriety she’s someone we want in the classroom. It also reinforces my stance, along with plenty of other studies that have been performed, that a universal basic income won’t stop people from working.
Pay people better and we’ll just keep working because we like it. It’s part of being human, but we shouldn’t be suffering to survive at the same time.
You can’t retire on $1m net worth. That’s not even a house in lots of areas.
It definitely helps. But giving up my career for $1m would be a very bad investment.
I have no idea why you’re being down voted. You’re absolutely right. You can’t live on back interest from $1M, so you have to invest it, and while some years you’ll make more than 10% average invested in the stock market, over 10 years you’ll average 8% because some years you’ll not only make no returns but you’ll lose some of your investment. Which means if you’re living off those returns, some years you’ll have to eat into those investments, slowly eating down the money you have making money for you. You’re paying taxes on those returns, and if you’re living off them, they’re considered short term investments and you pay a higher tax rate - because you pay taxes on returns on your investments.
Rich people get richer because they have other income and can leave the money and the returns untouched; they aren’t living on the returns until they have far more money invested than $1M.
People down-voting you are morons.
Yep, people acting like it’s plausible for someone to retire and live the rest of their life renting a room, at the same income as they got fresh out of college.
Plus they’re citing studys aimed at 35-40 years life expectancy, for someone retiring in their 20s, maybe early 30s.
And in one breath will decry the inflation calculations being cited by the government to show we have a “healthy” economy. And in the next, try to pretend cost of living isn’t sky rocketing and someone can live the rest of their long life on 40k/yr.
That’s lemmy for you, though. No point fighting the tide.
Edit - also, I’m sure those studies probably included some amount of social security helping out, which you’re not getting if you retire in your 20s.
You’re paying taxes on those returns, and if you’re living off them, they’re considered short term investments and you pay a higher tax rate
(US tax info) Investments are taxed as long term (the lower tax rate) if you hold them for at least a year. Meaning, after the very first year, there is no reason to every pay the higher short term capital gain rates. A solid strategy is to invest in index funds and hold them for decades. If you aren’t retired, put the dividends back into more index funds. The long term trends earn you (conservatively) 8% per year average.
yea but you can teach all life long, whereas on Onlyfans you… uh,… nevermind
y’all misunderstood my post, I think. I was trying to joke about the fact that even if you’re getting on in years, there will always be an audience for your OnlyFans. Anywayyyy
Average investment returns are (conservatively) 8% per year, with a safe draw down being 4% per year. Which means she can safely withdraw $40,000/yr indefinitely without her investment decreasing in value over the long run.
Easily enough to retire in a decent cost of living area if she wishes, or work a small side job to boost her income to support a higher cost of living.
Especially considering she was making $42k annually as a teacher (according to another comment, I didn’t actually read the article). So she was able to live on roughly that amount already.
Realistically, she could continue to create OnlyFans content for some time and make and invest more than the initial $1m.
The safe withdraw for an extended early retirement is 3.5%
With 4%, while the chance is small, you could end up running out of money.
Someone did all the numbers for 35-40+ years looking back historically, and there were 4 or 5 years where if you started then and didn’t adjust your plan, you’d run out of cash.
There were 0 scenarios where 3.5% ran out
Yeah, except she can go makeinimum wage working full time for benefits and call it a day. You can live on minimum wage if you also have a mil in the bank to start. One door closed but a bunch of others opened. She can do that job you want that you don’t do because it doesn’t pay much.
Working full time isn’t retiring.
You also have a weird notion about benefits, and employers willingness to give full time hours so you even qualify. But that’s not even the slightest bit related to this discussion.
Someone else calculated that $1 million is about 30 years of the teaching salary. So you cannot retire on a career either.
If I were forced to choose I’d take the $1 million up front over a low-paying career and let it grow in the market while I found other work to avoid using it. $1 million up front over $1.3 million across 40-some years is a very good investment. Consider the decreased value of future money.
My school had a sex ed class although I can’t honestly remember anything that we were told in it. But basically if students managed to get to the end of formal education without getting pregnant that was generally considered to be a success.
They seriously had no real interest in educating students at all.
Case in point to your last part:
I was fired at the beginning of the year. I had sufficient funds I coulda retired if I wanted to. I’m not quite 40.
It’s been 2 months and I am so fucking bored I got a job. I didn’t go get a part time job to fill my time, I got a job in my field continuing to work at “my level” because it fulfills me.
I’m now able to do what I want because I want to rather than because of some existential need. My work product is WAY better.
Brb selling pictures of my balloon knot.
In all seriousness though, I don’t blame her one bit
Add in that id you don’t blow it all, you get to count the interest income. A long term investment gets about 6-7% per year. That’s actually more than the teaching job pay.
To go the other way, her tax bracket is a lot higher than the base salary alone would be. And if it’s $1m in a year, almost all of that will be in the highest bracket.
Ditto. Ive met countless older people now who kept up doing the work they were passionate about, even if it in time became a hobby that they did at a loss. People like to work. They like to see the fruits of their labor take shape before their eyes, and they like feeling like theyre doing something that benefits someone other than themselves.
As it stands, the rules we live by only reward the infinite pursuit of profit, but that doesnt align with the values people find themselves holding whether they like it or not.
I quit a job I really liked for one I didn’t like nearly as much because I hardly made more than minimum wage
If I won the lottery I would go back to that first job and work for free.
a universal basic income won’t stop people from working
A bit offtopic, but I came to the same conclusion during a somewhat philosophical discussion with a friend who expressed skepticism with the increased automation aspect of the world, and we extrapolated this into a hypothetical world where almost everything was automated.
His concern was that one day humanity could find themselves dependent on an automated system over which they had no control.
My response, being a bit of a techno-optimist, was that:
- We kind of already do
- Someone has to keep this system running
- Even if I was paid an UBI, I would still like to be part of #2.
I’m the kind of guy who makes the little gears spin so that the cog can turn, and I derive entertainment from reviving broken complex systems, and I wouldn’t want it any other way
I completely agree. I tinker and change my PC to parts because it’s fun. Did it make a difference to performance? Kinda. Was the effort put forth because of performance alone? No. People like making Legos and just put them on a shelf. There are consumer products where the customer is paying to do the work themselves for little gain above the fun of the journey. Why wouldn’t it expand to many other areas? And if there’s not enough people willing to do something, make it worth their while to fix it, but that’s already a problem and UBI isn’t the big smoking gun people claim it to be.
Oh! Thats awful! What sites did she post her nudes to? Like which specific ones?
Edit: this is a joke. Im devastated that i need to say this. How is it no obvious? Please do not send me links to her porn.
Is there a reason to downvote me other than thinking im being serious? This is a serious subject, she should not be fired for having a hobby. I 100% believe that.
I was just making a joke.
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I know how to google, if i wanted to i could probably find YOUR nudes (even if they dont exist)
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Its a reference to a tv show. Im personifying the joke performed by the character Mac.
Oh! No it was a joke. I dont want the actual link. Its an always sunny reference.
Appreciate the thought, though. Thanks
