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The important piece of this to me is this: She made $1 mil on OnlyFans and $42k/year as a teacher. She wants to be a teacher despite making plenty of money from other sources. This tells me that unless you have other evidence of impropriety she’s someone we want in the classroom. It also reinforces my stance, along with plenty of other studies that have been performed, that a universal basic income won’t stop people from working.

Pay people better and we’ll just keep working because we like it. It’s part of being human, but we shouldn’t be suffering to survive at the same time.

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$1 million = 23.8 years of teaching at $42K/yr.

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Add in that id you don’t blow it all, you get to count the interest income. A long term investment gets about 6-7% per year. That’s actually more than the teaching job pay.

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15 points

To go the other way, her tax bracket is a lot higher than the base salary alone would be. And if it’s $1m in a year, almost all of that will be in the highest bracket.

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2 points

A long term investment gets about 6-7% per year.

Much better than that in the current market

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28 points

Brb selling pictures of my balloon knot.

In all seriousness though, I don’t blame her one bit

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4 points

You’ll forgetting rule one

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35 points

People probably will choose to work on different things though. It’s harder to exploit a workforce that isn’t as desperate. That’s the real reason why UBI isn’t happening.

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28 points

I quit a job I really liked for one I didn’t like nearly as much because I hardly made more than minimum wage

If I won the lottery I would go back to that first job and work for free.

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0 points

What job would anyone do for free, apart from unpaid sex work?

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1 point

Working with animals

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29 points

Bonk

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The last thing a public school wants is a teacher with actual understanding of sex teaching a sex education class.

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My school had a sex ed class although I can’t honestly remember anything that we were told in it. But basically if students managed to get to the end of formal education without getting pregnant that was generally considered to be a success.

They seriously had no real interest in educating students at all.

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While I’d trust this person to do a good job better than the teachers hired by Catholic schools, being an Only Fans performer doesn’t really qualify you for that.

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Ditto. Ive met countless older people now who kept up doing the work they were passionate about, even if it in time became a hobby that they did at a loss. People like to work. They like to see the fruits of their labor take shape before their eyes, and they like feeling like theyre doing something that benefits someone other than themselves.

As it stands, the rules we live by only reward the infinite pursuit of profit, but that doesnt align with the values people find themselves holding whether they like it or not.

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15 points

Case in point to your last part:

I was fired at the beginning of the year. I had sufficient funds I coulda retired if I wanted to. I’m not quite 40.

It’s been 2 months and I am so fucking bored I got a job. I didn’t go get a part time job to fill my time, I got a job in my field continuing to work at “my level” because it fulfills me.

I’m now able to do what I want because I want to rather than because of some existential need. My work product is WAY better.

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a universal basic income won’t stop people from working

A bit offtopic, but I came to the same conclusion during a somewhat philosophical discussion with a friend who expressed skepticism with the increased automation aspect of the world, and we extrapolated this into a hypothetical world where almost everything was automated.

His concern was that one day humanity could find themselves dependent on an automated system over which they had no control.

My response, being a bit of a techno-optimist, was that:

  1. We kind of already do
  2. Someone has to keep this system running
  3. Even if I was paid an UBI, I would still like to be part of #2.

I’m the kind of guy who makes the little gears spin so that the cog can turn, and I derive entertainment from reviving broken complex systems, and I wouldn’t want it any other way

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3 points

There are valid criticisms to UBI (usually specific to each implementation), but “lazy workers” will never be one of them.

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I completely agree. I tinker and change my PC to parts because it’s fun. Did it make a difference to performance? Kinda. Was the effort put forth because of performance alone? No. People like making Legos and just put them on a shelf. There are consumer products where the customer is paying to do the work themselves for little gain above the fun of the journey. Why wouldn’t it expand to many other areas? And if there’s not enough people willing to do something, make it worth their while to fix it, but that’s already a problem and UBI isn’t the big smoking gun people claim it to be.

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We ARE dependent on systems over which we have no control, since a LONG time, the hell are you on about? One cog in this machinery busts, and you die, and you won’t be able to do a thing about it.

Edit: jesus I was drunk when I wrote this shit, sorry

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1 point

I can see a problem with kids in her school starting to see her as a sex worker rather than a teacher.

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Plus you can visit and talk to her for free! Not lol, lol.

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-64 points

You can’t retire on $1m net worth. That’s not even a house in lots of areas.

It definitely helps. But giving up my career for $1m would be a very bad investment.

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Average investment returns are (conservatively) 8% per year, with a safe draw down being 4% per year. Which means she can safely withdraw $40,000/yr indefinitely without her investment decreasing in value over the long run.

Easily enough to retire in a decent cost of living area if she wishes, or work a small side job to boost her income to support a higher cost of living.

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30 points

Especially considering she was making $42k annually as a teacher (according to another comment, I didn’t actually read the article). So she was able to live on roughly that amount already.

Realistically, she could continue to create OnlyFans content for some time and make and invest more than the initial $1m.

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The safe withdraw for an extended early retirement is 3.5%

With 4%, while the chance is small, you could end up running out of money.

Someone did all the numbers for 35-40+ years looking back historically, and there were 4 or 5 years where if you started then and didn’t adjust your plan, you’d run out of cash.

There were 0 scenarios where 3.5% ran out

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22 points

Sort of the joke in it all. You can’t retire on $42k/year either

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yea but you can teach all life long, whereas on Onlyfans you… uh,… nevermind

y’all misunderstood my post, I think. I was trying to joke about the fact that even if you’re getting on in years, there will always be an audience for your OnlyFans. Anywayyyy

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Yeah, except she can go makeinimum wage working full time for benefits and call it a day. You can live on minimum wage if you also have a mil in the bank to start. One door closed but a bunch of others opened. She can do that job you want that you don’t do because it doesn’t pay much.

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Working full time isn’t retiring.

You also have a weird notion about benefits, and employers willingness to give full time hours so you even qualify. But that’s not even the slightest bit related to this discussion.

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11 points

You can’t pay for groceries with your net worth but given million bucks I’d retire immediately. That amount of money invested to the stock market pays around 50 - 70k interests every year and you get to keep the million.

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Someone else calculated that $1 million is about 30 years of the teaching salary. So you cannot retire on a career either.

If I were forced to choose I’d take the $1 million up front over a low-paying career and let it grow in the market while I found other work to avoid using it. $1 million up front over $1.3 million across 40-some years is a very good investment. Consider the decreased value of future money.

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Not only that, 1 mil invested and making a modest 5% a year will return more than the teaching salary for doing nothing.

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I have no idea why you’re being down voted. You’re absolutely right. You can’t live on back interest from $1M, so you have to invest it, and while some years you’ll make more than 10% average invested in the stock market, over 10 years you’ll average 8% because some years you’ll not only make no returns but you’ll lose some of your investment. Which means if you’re living off those returns, some years you’ll have to eat into those investments, slowly eating down the money you have making money for you. You’re paying taxes on those returns, and if you’re living off them, they’re considered short term investments and you pay a higher tax rate - because you pay taxes on returns on your investments.

Rich people get richer because they have other income and can leave the money and the returns untouched; they aren’t living on the returns until they have far more money invested than $1M.

People down-voting you are morons.

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You’re paying taxes on those returns, and if you’re living off them, they’re considered short term investments and you pay a higher tax rate

(US tax info) Investments are taxed as long term (the lower tax rate) if you hold them for at least a year. Meaning, after the very first year, there is no reason to every pay the higher short term capital gain rates. A solid strategy is to invest in index funds and hold them for decades. If you aren’t retired, put the dividends back into more index funds. The long term trends earn you (conservatively) 8% per year average.

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Yep, people acting like it’s plausible for someone to retire and live the rest of their life renting a room, at the same income as they got fresh out of college.

Plus they’re citing studys aimed at 35-40 years life expectancy, for someone retiring in their 20s, maybe early 30s.

And in one breath will decry the inflation calculations being cited by the government to show we have a “healthy” economy. And in the next, try to pretend cost of living isn’t sky rocketing and someone can live the rest of their long life on 40k/yr.

That’s lemmy for you, though. No point fighting the tide.

Edit - also, I’m sure those studies probably included some amount of social security helping out, which you’re not getting if you retire in your 20s.

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If you get a modest 5% return on that mil that’s $50k per year, which is more than her teaching salary for doing nothing.

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174 points

A million dollars from OnlyFans and now she gets an employment law claim against the new employer.

This may truly be the only way to get ahead as a teacher in the US…

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60 points

By quitting teaching?

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Stay in school, kiddo.

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But teacher, why do you need me to stay after? Is there something you… want?

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Man ugly people truly are fucked in every sense.

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122 points

Well, not so much in the literal sense…

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24 points

I laughed. I cried.

Your comment was a rollercoaster of emotion.

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3 points

That does mean humans do get prettier with each generation though, at least based on current beauty standards.

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5 points

People are all equal. But some people are more equal than others.

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34 points

The attractive teachers must have really been frustrated by me. I only cared if you were a cool teacher. Most of the time, the attractive teachers were not the cool teachers.

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16 points

My favorite and best teacher was a 70 year old retired Catholic nun who was a big fan of rulers on knuckles. But my God was she a fantastic teacher.

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9 points

…And was she hot?

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6 points

There’s so much to unpack there, but let’s go out on a limb and bet you appreciate the skilled application of a little force to inspire accuracy and attention to detail.

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1 point

In theory or did she actually?

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15 points

I might be a stray data point, but I had a smoking hot partial differential equations professor who dressed for the weather during the summer semester. Didn’t learn a damn thing.

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For sure it’s different when kids would just find out and start downloading her naked photos. Then parents would find out and be insanely mad that kids are viewing their teacher’s naked photos. It’s different case than secretly fantasizing about your pretty teacher lol

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13 points

They’re already watching porn and making nudes of their friends using photo editing software and AI tools. At this point I don’t quite understand what does it matter if they’re somehow able to find their teacher’s OnlyFans pictures.

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I know how the parents feel. That’s stupid article didn’t include a link. Journalistic malpractice is what it is

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5 points

Oh how embarrassing…

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I bet this is true for adults too! Lol

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My hottest teacher was just for homeroom. Full package. Leather skirt, leopard print satin top, high heels…

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I love how the employer admitted to not checking her references or googling her beforehand.

Can’t really blame her when they didn’t do their due diligence.

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Yeah, the ones who hired a teacher without doing any sort of a background check are the ones who really should be fired. Imagine if they hired someone who was actually dangerous to their students.

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9 points

The new employer wasn’t a school.

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3 points

You only check references after there’s a problem, everyone knows that

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When I was in high school, my 11th grade biology teacher was let go after 1 week because he didn’t have a teaching license

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I’m a senior manager at a pretty big company.

That’s something she does on the side, and if anyone in the workplace gave her shit, I would tell them to leave it the fuck alone unless they wanted me to bring HR in to the convo.

Can people please not be cunts? (I’m an Aussie…)

Edit: People need to disconnect things. Say there’s leaked nudes (or even just public nudes) of a work colleague. Let’s take it to they used to do porn. Yep, that’s something they did. That has zero impact on their role now or who they are in their role. They don’t deserve shame, or ridicule.

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You know this chick:

Those expressions were her reaction to taste testing some kombucha on a video or stream. Those screenshots were grabbed by the internet and used in a similar format to the Drake meme, “Nah that’s bad” "actually I like that

She worked at a bank. They fired her for it.

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That’s fucked up. There’s nothing about that video that was remotely inappropriate for work. Everyone needs to join a union, holy hell.

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I heard Unions were of the devil!

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So she was essentially fired for being a comedic actor. Imagine if the restaurant industry had the same policy.

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It’s potentially worse, and stupider, than that.

The bank didn’t fire her specifically because she posted the video where she made a couple faces after trying kombucha. They fired her because her face started to get used for the meme. Completely out of her control, because people started posting “thing I don’t like, thing I like” memes with this format, often times with various political messages. Basically someone else used her face in a “this brings joy, this does not bring joy” meme and she got canned because of the bank’s “image.” As if it was actually her saying these things.

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restaurant industry

Isn’t that where fired comedic actors go after they are fired?

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23 points

Wow. TIL. That sucks.

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5 points

What would HR at your company say?

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“We need to protect our innocent company from these scumbag workers at all cost!”

I assume, they don’t exist to protect workers’ rights.

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6 points

Stop giving people shit about their “hobbies”.

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Are you saying that to me or as a quote?

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HR where I work is excessively paranoid about terminations. They will want a paper trail of performance failures or argue to death that “then they’ll be able to argue they were really fired for a protected reason. Get me a paper trail of performance failures”.

Not saying our HR is worker-friendly. They’re just VERY lawsuit-averse.

Flip-side, I worked at a company that fired anyone for any reason and just kept cash aside for wrongful termination suits. And they had a HUGE HR team, whose job it was to keep the employers happy.

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It’s like a union, but for corporations.

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If the actions of an employee will reflect on a company, why shouldnt they have the right to decide to work with someone that doesnt do those things on the side?

If an america employee went on the news yelling racist things (on the side), shouldnt they company have the right not to work with them?

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Yes - and the company should then pay the employee for the termination unrelated in any way to their performance on the job. Keep in mind, the better solution would be to have racism be actually illegal in 'murica, so the employer fires that employee after they explicitly break the law.

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he better solution would be to have racism be actually illegal

How exactly would you do this, and who gets to decide what is racist? Right now we have half country getting called racist on a regular basis.

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Why is it always corporations that should get the slack. Aren’t you and me more important, our rights? You’re not a megacorp, why do you take their side? They’re not on yours!

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