Ford and GM are probably regretting that switch to NACS…

78 points

Jesus when are stockholders going to realize what he’s like at the helm and kick him out of CEO? This is the first thing I’ve heard about Musk doing anything with Tesla since Twitter happened. How do stockholders trust this man. Throwing away everything about him, this is an absent CEO who learned about one project that everyone was watching, he comes in, kicks down the door, and first response is to fire the whole team. To me, that says “this company is a shitshow”

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63 points

There is one stockholder that has tried multiple times. The issue is the whole Tesla board are all his cronies, and a large portion of stockholders have bought into the cult of personality

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39 points

It’s amazing that someone with such a garbage personality has a cult of personality.

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37 points

Before his Twitter addiction it was much easier to think of him as a rich genius like you see in comic books, mostly since nobody knew what he was thinking. He’s also managed a celebrity-like persona that someone like robot Mark Zuckerberg could never pull off. That and money will always get hangers on.

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7 points

It is not uncommon

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1 point

It’s the confidence with which he sprouts his nonsense. People flock to confident personalities, because they must know a lot of things (presumably).

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1 point

It’s the weird magic of leftist reality: Elon Musk of all people has a cult of personality. The man is the most boring person I’ve ever heard speak, ever, and yet somehow he’s just coasting on this “cult of personality”.

Either he’s breaking all the molds, or there was no mold to begin with.

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5 points

not only the board won’t fire him, but probably would even vote towards approving that bonus he’s craving

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5 points

I have no doubt he will get his blasted pay raise, but it went from being a “surefire bet” to a “bet” in the past few weeks. Collapses usually start slow and then they pick up speed

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4 points

Maybe he’s looking to retire and the board wants to make whoever follows him look like a godsend.

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26 points

Ford and GM are probably regretting that switch to NACS…

Why? For one, Ford has scaled back it’s EV transition in favor of hybrids now, and two, there’s now a bunch of engineers looking for a job and charging sites up for grabs

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Not to mention, it’s a standard now, and the old Supercharger protocol is being phased out in favor of another standardized one (I forget which). Further development done on their chargers from here on out is going to be done by a consortium of companies rather than in-house anyway.

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10 points

That’s true, a lot of talent now available.

Last I heard Ford scaled back EV expansion because they overestimated adoption based on the sales of the Lightning, but they were still planning on an increase in production. Just not the 50% estimate they started with.

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4 points

Make the Maverick a plug in hybrid already!

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22 points

government should either nationalise teslas network or work with other companies to switch to a new standard

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9 points

With this move Tesla effectively gave up on the $7.5 billion package from the us government to build new infrastructure. Since it was paid with private money, it doesn’t require to be nationalized. It’s also accessible to anyone, with prices that are reasonable

Also, I don’t know how efficient is the government in the usa, but in my country the chargers built by the semi-nationalized electric company are almost always broken because they don’t really care about profits, they have the unlimited government budget, so what’s the issue if a charger breaks and gets fixed after 2 years, making zero revenue during that time?

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5 points

Good news! NACS is being adopted as an SAE standard (J3400)

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21 points

I really want to see the email/message exchange preceding some of these changes at twitter/Tesla.

Is there any pushback/discussion any more, or does Elon just say jump and entire departments vanish?

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18 points

There are rumors that this was an emotional decision from muskrat, and they will probably be offered their jobs back. Just rumors, but still would not be surprising

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29 points

Who would take them? I mean, I guess you gotta get paid, but when someone demonstrated that they can just drop you with zero warning, trust is negative at that point.

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19 points

Oh I agree. There have to be rival companies looking for that exact experience right now. They should not have too much trouble being hired on one of the myriad charging companies out there

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1 point

I’d rejoin for double the wage I previously had. Need to build up an emergency fund for this precarious position.

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13 points

One article I read said he likes to fire whole teams and then see which people are asked about. Those are the ones he rehires. If nobody misses you then you were doing a job of value.

From a human level, this is just shitty. It isn’t the way to treat people.

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9 points

He sees his employees like slaves as his parents did

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1 point

it’s also not a good way of actually figuring out who is critical.

you can have people who keep the lights on and if they do their job right few even notice they exist.

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1 point

That’s not how research & development works. Nobody asks for a specific person there. Stuff just doesn’t get done.

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5 points

Could be supervillain problems 🤣 comments about wishing someone would go away and an underling resolves it’s in a more permanent way …

Probably not, it’s just that his entire exec team are spineless henchman.

I think the spacex team is still independent (ish) for now, I fear for them though!

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6 points

Well, the exact rumor is he did it to show that he is serious about staffing cuts and that no team is safe, and just made an arbitrary decision

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2 points

Rumors or wishful thinking, I wonder

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17 points

This team will hopefully find jobs elsewhere very easily. Competitors should take this opportunity to hire skilled workers.

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6 points

Any H1B visa hostage can pick up someone else’s work on xitter for slave hours, but for cars you need experience, talent and know how. If you fire a whole team to save $x, then you gotta pay $5x to rebuild that team when you eventually need it. (Tesla probably needs a team to develop new models, eventually. Same for the policy team, useful to launch the auto taxi when it exits from beta in 2045

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