What happens to the election if Biden dies before it?
- With considerable time til the election
- Not enough time to change the election
Assuming Biden wins on election day, what is the procedure at various stages throughout the election if Biden dies?
- After election day but before votes are counted
- Votes counted but not certified by Congress
- Certified but not inaugurated
- Any other stages Iāve missed
Iām just going to point out that trump is only 3 years younger, and has far more risk factors for heart attack and strokes.
Why does everyone seem to think Biden is the one who will die first.
The right all week accused Biden of taking performance enhancing stimulants. Iām unclear where they got that information, until you remember one thing. When the GOP accuses the left of something, it usually comes out later that its because thats what THEY feel guilty about themselves doing.
Why does everyone seem to think Biden is the one who will die first.
because we recently saw them in televised debate and one of them looked in significantly worse shape than the other.
I did not take him as in worst shape. I saw a person who couldnāt believe the bullshit being said by a narcissistic moron. I would have the same look at my face in disbelief if I had to debate with someone that I thought still asked for crayons at a restaurant.
I saw a person who couldnāt believe the bullshit being said by a narcissistic moron. I would have the same look at my face in disbelief
thatās really not an argument in bidenās favor.
he had known trump for at least 9 years and he had been lying narcissistic moron that whole time. if he didnāt expect the most expectable thing in the world from him, and being surprised threw him off the rails in such manner that he wasnāt able to put together coherent sentence, how is he qualified for a job where there are actual surprises of enormous consequences on a daily basis?
TBH because of his physical presentation at the debate. Yeah, itās short-sighted, but welcome to the public thought process. Whatever is churned thru the latest 15 minute media cycle seems to be what they believe.
Doesnāt matter if he had a cold and was dosed up on NyQuil or whatever; his voice was weak, he stumbled over making coherent sentence multiple times, and he just had a blank, open-mouthed stare when between questions. Iāve had shitty colds and been drugged up with cold meds and I know that feel of being sore, exhausted, hoarse, and disconnected. You just want to go have a lie-down, not a public debate against a raging, insulting, narcissistic asshole. But it takes someone willing to understand all that and give Biden the benefit of the doubt.
There are far too many that start from the āoldā part and just attribute everything possible to that which they find disagreeable.
his voice was weak, he stumbled over making coherent sentence multiple times, and he just had a blank, open-mouthed stare when between questions.
And apparently that matters more than the blatant lies and non-answers coming from the other side. Gotta say, Americans do seem significantly dumber than the average world citizen.
And apparently that matters more than the blatant lies and non-answers coming from the other side.
yes, for estimating whether someone dies due to health condition, that health condition matters significantly more than someone else lying. š
Gotta say, Americans do seem significantly dumber than the average world citizen.
Presumably what an American once said about Germans. It can happen anywhere with the right stream of propaganda.
Groups have been trying to push this message since the debate. Itās not terribly effective for anyone who actually watched.
A cold and cold medicine donāt account for the very clear confusion and sundowning the rest of us witnessed.
I canāt unpaywall the article. The assumption heād take some kind of meds is my own.
Letās look at oldest mainline Presidential nominees in history:
- Biden - 2024 (81)
- Trump - 2024 (78)
- Biden - 2020 (77)
- Trump - 2020 (74)
- Reagan - 1984 (73)
- Trump - 2016 (70)
- Reagan - 1980 (69)
Next President who was elected was William Henry Harrison, but weāre getting āyoungā enough there may be unelected nominees Iām not aware of.
Also: fun fact. Jimmy Carterās post-presidency lifespan has been over 43 years so far, while Teddy Roosevelt was only 42 when elected Predident.
Because Trump now thinks he has full immunity to assassinate his political rivals
Harris goes from VP to P. Which I really think would be a bigger disaster.
President Harris and Vice President Jefferies
Anything else means instant constitutional crisis, but at the same time, weāll be able hear the explosions from space as right winger minds absorb that circumstance has brought about the first female president and also the first PoC President Vice President team.
If Kamala was good at trolling sheād not nominate any white people to the cabinet so we can all enjoy fox pundits trying to find the magic combination of words that let them be mad about an all PoC cabinet without it being racist, but Iām pretty sure sheās at least going to keep Buttigieg on as Transit Czar since heās been going at least hard enough to get HSR moving finally between LA and Vegas.
Vice President Jefferies
It doesnāt work that way. First of all, Mike Johnson is the Speaker, and is next in line for the Presidency after the VP, not Jeffries. But that entire list is strictly to see who would be President if the office were suddenly vacant. The House Speaker would only take over if there is a Presidential vacancy while the office of VP is also vacant.
Should Harris becomes President due to Biden leaving office early, the office of VP would become vacant and remain so until President Harris picks a replacement, and that replacement is ratified by both houses of Congress. Sadly, in todayās political climate that is not a guarantee.
I was talking since Jefferies would likely be Speaker in the scenario where Biden won the election but then died of old age.
Also consider what happens if Trump dies at any of these stages - heās almost the same age so all else being equal heās almost as likely to die during the same period
I bet they already have the conspiracy theories prepped for when Trump dies. It would be interesting for someone to make a Reddit post asking for MAGA to share their theories that someone is trying to terminate Trump, so that when he eventually passes from natural causes, we could pull that up as relevant info to see why no one did anything beforehand to prevent the attempt or if the conspiracy that emerges wasnāt stated before it happened.
Bonus round with the upcoming (small) bird flu epidemic:
What if both die days before the election due to a sudden illness?
See inside what? Did you link to anything?
As I see it, key deadlines are:
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The party conventions, where each parties nominee will be formalized. (But recall that the actual Democratic Nomination will be done before the convention, to meet some State deadlines).
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The election itself, where voters choose which slate of electors cast EC votes.
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The electoral college election that really matters.
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The counting of the EC Votes
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the inauguration
Once the nominations are formalized, they probably canāt be undone, since there are State deadlines involved.
But always remember that people are not voting for the candidates themselves, but for a slate of electors. And while the expectation is for these electors to vote for the ticket they were pledged to, if one candidate is subject to Godās Almighty Recall Vote, they appear to have the discretion to file votes differently.
Once the EC votes are cast, though, there would probably be no choice but to accept them. (Congress recently revamped the counting process to eliminate some of the shenanigans that happened last time). I expect that if either one croaks after that, they would probably just inaugurate the VP on the ticket directly.
(Edited to add: states may be able to change EC votes after the December EC election. That date is based on a āsafe harborā deadline which makes EC votes harder to challenge. So, if the winning candidate bites it on Christmas Day thereās probably a way for State Legislatures to certify new EC votes before Congress counts them Jan 6, but we should expect a challenge to that.)
(It would suck if Trump won, and Biden croaked on Jan 19th. We might have our first female President, for one day.)
