What happens to the election if Biden dies before it?
- With considerable time til the election
- Not enough time to change the election
Assuming Biden wins on election day, what is the procedure at various stages throughout the election if Biden dies?
- After election day but before votes are counted
- Votes counted but not certified by Congress
- Certified but not inaugurated
- Any other stages Iāve missed
amendment 20, section 3. the vice president-elect gets inaugurated
I think itād also count as a full term in office so far as the rule against running more than twice goes. So you could run for reelection, but that isnāt a āone werid trickā to getting three terms in office.
And the 25th regarding death and disability, depending on when he kicks off. For those interested in learning more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Iām just going to point out that trump is only 3 years younger, and has far more risk factors for heart attack and strokes.
Why does everyone seem to think Biden is the one who will die first.
Why does everyone seem to think Biden is the one who will die first.
because we recently saw them in televised debate and one of them looked in significantly worse shape than the other.
I did not take him as in worst shape. I saw a person who couldnāt believe the bullshit being said by a narcissistic moron. I would have the same look at my face in disbelief if I had to debate with someone that I thought still asked for crayons at a restaurant.
I saw a person who couldnāt believe the bullshit being said by a narcissistic moron. I would have the same look at my face in disbelief
thatās really not an argument in bidenās favor.
he had known trump for at least 9 years and he had been lying narcissistic moron that whole time. if he didnāt expect the most expectable thing in the world from him, and being surprised threw him off the rails in such manner that he wasnāt able to put together coherent sentence, how is he qualified for a job where there are actual surprises of enormous consequences on a daily basis?
TBH because of his physical presentation at the debate. Yeah, itās short-sighted, but welcome to the public thought process. Whatever is churned thru the latest 15 minute media cycle seems to be what they believe.
Doesnāt matter if he had a cold and was dosed up on NyQuil or whatever; his voice was weak, he stumbled over making coherent sentence multiple times, and he just had a blank, open-mouthed stare when between questions. Iāve had shitty colds and been drugged up with cold meds and I know that feel of being sore, exhausted, hoarse, and disconnected. You just want to go have a lie-down, not a public debate against a raging, insulting, narcissistic asshole. But it takes someone willing to understand all that and give Biden the benefit of the doubt.
There are far too many that start from the āoldā part and just attribute everything possible to that which they find disagreeable.
his voice was weak, he stumbled over making coherent sentence multiple times, and he just had a blank, open-mouthed stare when between questions.
And apparently that matters more than the blatant lies and non-answers coming from the other side. Gotta say, Americans do seem significantly dumber than the average world citizen.
Gotta say, Americans do seem significantly dumber than the average world citizen.
Presumably what an American once said about Germans. It can happen anywhere with the right stream of propaganda.
And apparently that matters more than the blatant lies and non-answers coming from the other side.
yes, for estimating whether someone dies due to health condition, that health condition matters significantly more than someone else lying. š
I canāt unpaywall the article. The assumption heād take some kind of meds is my own.
Groups have been trying to push this message since the debate. Itās not terribly effective for anyone who actually watched.
A cold and cold medicine donāt account for the very clear confusion and sundowning the rest of us witnessed.
Because Trump now thinks he has full immunity to assassinate his political rivals
Letās look at oldest mainline Presidential nominees in history:
- Biden - 2024 (81)
- Trump - 2024 (78)
- Biden - 2020 (77)
- Trump - 2020 (74)
- Reagan - 1984 (73)
- Trump - 2016 (70)
- Reagan - 1980 (69)
Next President who was elected was William Henry Harrison, but weāre getting āyoungā enough there may be unelected nominees Iām not aware of.
Also: fun fact. Jimmy Carterās post-presidency lifespan has been over 43 years so far, while Teddy Roosevelt was only 42 when elected Predident.
The right all week accused Biden of taking performance enhancing stimulants. Iām unclear where they got that information, until you remember one thing. When the GOP accuses the left of something, it usually comes out later that its because thats what THEY feel guilty about themselves doing.
Also consider what happens if Trump dies at any of these stages - heās almost the same age so all else being equal heās almost as likely to die during the same period
I bet they already have the conspiracy theories prepped for when Trump dies. It would be interesting for someone to make a Reddit post asking for MAGA to share their theories that someone is trying to terminate Trump, so that when he eventually passes from natural causes, we could pull that up as relevant info to see why no one did anything beforehand to prevent the attempt or if the conspiracy that emerges wasnāt stated before it happened.
Bonus round with the upcoming (small) bird flu epidemic:
What if both die days before the election due to a sudden illness?
The Vice President-Elect is sworn in instead. This is covered by section 3 of the 20th amendment.
Section 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President-elect shall have died, the Vice President-elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President-elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President-elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President-elect nor a Vice President-elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
Thereās actually a novel that describes the process and it actually depends on when it happens.
If Biden wins the election, but dies before the electoral college votes, itās a free-for-all. The electoral college can vote for whoever they want.
If he dies AFTER the EC vote, but before itās certified, thereās a different set of problems.
If he dies after the vote and the certification, the VP becomes President.
If Biden wins the election, but dies before the electoral college votes, itās a free-for-all. The electoral college can vote for whoever they want.
This is unclear. Some states have laws that say that electors must vote for who theyāre pledged to vote for.
Again, this depends on the state. In some states itās a fine. In others itās a misdemeanor and can carry jail time. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector.
