Public sentiment on the importance of safe, lifesaving childhood vaccines has significantly declined in the US since the pandemic—which appears to be solely due to a nosedive in support from people who are Republican or those who lean Republican, according to new polling data from Gallup.

In 2019, 52 percent of Republican-aligned Americans said it was “extremely important” for parents to get their children vaccinated. Now, that figure is 26 percent, falling by half in just five years. In comparison, 63 percent of Democrats and Democratic leaners said it was “extremely important” this year, down slightly from 67 percent in 2019.

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Vaccines shouldn’t be political. What is wrong with some Republicans?

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I can start but I think there’s a character limit

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Better just list what isn’t wrong with them, because it’s a much shorter list.

Here, I’ll show it to you:

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They figured out how to weaponize science-illiteracy like many authoritarians before them.

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It’s not always political, but it’s always stupidity, and stupidity is worse on one side than the other.
You know, like facts having a liberal bias.

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They’re weird.

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It’s part of “don’t trust gubment”.

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Nah, they might repeat that as a talking point but they’re down with fascism, just like they’ll bitch and moan about the pharmaceutical companies having a profit motive to lie without wanting to remove the profit motive from healthcare.

They’re just liars and hypocrites who want their team, Team Racists and Bigots, to have total control and never forget it.

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My theory is that it’s a combination of lead poisoning from going to NASCAR races (which still used leaded gas until 2007 or so) and right wing media indoctrination, mainly Fox News.

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My theory is that it’s a combination of lead poisoning from going to NASCAR races (which still used leaded gas until 2007 or so) and right wing media indoctrination, mainly Fox News.

FTFY

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It’s the group with the least information. They’re morons.

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Total embrace of the paranoid style of politics.

A couple decades ago, these people would be ranting about how the reds are adding fluoride to the water to make American patriots infertile.

Previously, the paranoid style was less prominent. By acquiring control of large sectors of the media, a strategically important asset, they have widely propagated conspiratorial thinking at a scale that has never been seen before in the USA.

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These idiots are not only harming themselves and their children, they’re harming and sometimes killing others who are medically prevented from receiving vaccinations. These scumbags are literally spreading disease.

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Plague rats.

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Actually it’s worse than that, if you have enough unvaccinated people in an area you’ll increase the viral load received by the local population. Vaccines raise immunity significantly, but don’t make you fully immune. If you experience enough of a viral load despite being vaccinated you can still get sick. This is how outbreaks occur and why we’re seeing them in low vaccination communities. These viruses then spreads to others that shouldn’t normally get the virus. So in short it harms everyone including those vaccinated.

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Every time I see some of my relatives, I make sure I bring up “oh, by the way shouldn’t I be dead now? You made a pretty big fuss about how everyone who was vaccinated [would] be dead within a year”

It’s always met with eye rolls and silence.

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Ha ha! Love this!

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That number is… eerily close to the percentage population estimated to be hardcore unshakeable Trumpers.

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I guess 20 years ago this was a scandal

Another factor in Obama’s favor at the time that Rogers didn’t mention is that the original Republican candidate, Jack Ryan,[6] had been forced to suspend his candidacy after his divorce and custody records were released to the press, revealing that he had taken his former wife, actress Jeri Ryan,[7] to various sex clubs (including, in at least one case, a bondage club) and tried to have her perform sex acts on him out in the open.[8] Keyes was the GOP’s last-minute replacement on the ticket after the sordid details of Ryan’s divorce came out.

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My dad contracted polio as a teen a year before the vaccine came out in our home country. Fuck people who think vaccines are dangerous. Ask my dad how well his legs work.

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Same, but my mother.

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Vaccines are dangerous. The probability of vaccines progressing from phase 2 to licensure within 10 years was 10.0%

The probability of vaccines passing phase 1 is between 63.3% and 82.5%

Licenced vaccines are safe.

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Vaccines are dangerous. The probability of vaccines progressing from phase 2 to licensure within 10 years was 10.0%.

Your cited evidence does not support your claim of danger. Safety is demonstrated in phase 0. After determining that the vaccine isn’t particularly dangerous, phase 1 is for determining dosage and side effects, and phase 2 is for determining efficacy.

Safety is demonstrated in the first few months, but the FDA doesn’t (normally) approve something just because it is safe. It also has to be effective. During the pandemic any degree of effectiveness would save lives, so emergency approval was justified.

The 90% of vaccines that failed to gain approval were not dangerous. They failed because they were ineffective.

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During the pandemic any degree of effectiveness would save lives, so emergency approval was justified.

What? Pretty sure the requirement of effectiveness was at least 70%, and the approved vaccines had a >90% effectiveness. Obviously as the virus mutated the effectiveness nosedived, but they were very effective against the original strain. (edit: Effectiveness versus getting infected at all, not against serious illness and death, which remains good)

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Ok, X% of vaccines that are developed are abandoned for safety reasons.

My point is that vaccines are not automatically safe, they are rigorously tested before they are licenced.

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