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Both sides are wrong, just that Democrats are center-wrong, while Republicans are far-wrong.

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They’re right-wrong. Social democracy is a centrist position, not neoliberalism.

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I q

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Im not offended as much as I am disappointed in the Democrat party, why aren’t they as cool as the Republican say they are. Whenever Trump calls them “far left communists” I think “damn I wish”, instead they’re boring center right liberals. Also I was promised by Trump that the Democrats would end capitalism, kill capitalists, instiute a worker owned economy, open the borders to immigration, enforce Trans rights, promote actual diversity, and unify the left under the red banner.

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Dems are as cool as republicans because they’re the same thing. The dems aren’t going to call republicans fascist because the dems share all the same symptoms. They’re not going to call out the republicans for supporting genocide because they also support genocide. They’re not going to call out republicans on supporting the prison state because dems also support the prison state. The dems aren’t going to criticize the republicans for serving capital because the dems serve capital. Etc.

You gotta realize these politicians are agreeing on much much more than they disagree. It’s what’s not debated that’s most important.

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Teenager energy right here, apparently functioning everyday life is boring and some wanna make some french style revolution cause raging hormones and underdeveloped brain. I promise you grow out of it though

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Everyday life is not functioning 👍

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I am very sorry for you. Let’s make a total revolution then and upend everything because Cowbee cannot function

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41 year old here. Not everyone grows up to be a fascist repub.

Socialist right here.

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when do you grow out of it? I’m in my mid thirties and the urge to water the tree of freedom has nothing but grown.

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Well I guess there are exceptions. I blame trans/lgbt internet bubbles where desperate flock to. If no one loves you except commies you kinda are bound to become one permanently. Almost happened here too

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I’m 37 and want this.

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Counterpoint, you’re literally a capitalist. Just because the system benefits you doesn’t mean it benefits the working class.

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I am and it’s fucking great lemme tell you that. You should try it some time

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Coming off as your accusations here

wanna make some french style revolution

And not smart enough to keep your ignorance of history under your hat to boot

great first impression

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It’s just an hyperbole about how leftists feel about vaguely centrist policies.

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The biggest danger to US democracy is not Donald Trump or the Project 2025 christofascists, it’s the crushing ignorance of the US population. The gutting of the public education system means that many if not most Americans don’t understand that, “fascist” isn’t just a name like, “poopie head” that you call someone. It has a definition and clearly defined policies/behaviours that closely align with Trump/Vance/Johnston and their enablers. Communist and Marxist are very clearly defined things. Harris/Walz are pro business which means they are definitely NOT communists or Marxists.

If the US population were better educated and more knowledgable they would dump these Retrumplican clowns and rebuild the Republican party from scratch.

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It intentional semantic drift and has been happening for a very long time. They erode harsh terms with hyperbole and make normal positions seem extreme by stereotype and strawman. That’s why I prefer specifying that I’m Mutualist rather than explain how the terms socialist/capitalist have drifted out of dichotomy or how the term anarchist and libertarian have become parodies of themselves.

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Modern Libertariansm is ridiculous. Libertarianism is far better aligned with socialism (where the people do the work and most of the the benefit stays with the people) than it is with either communism (where the people do the work and most of the benefit goes to the government/plutocrats) or capitalism (where the people do the work and most of the benefit goes to the wealthy/oligarchs.) Modern Libertarians are extremist right wing capitalist stooges.

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Your definition of communism further proves the earlier point about semantic drift. All of these terms are problematic because of their histories in the past 200 years.

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Capitalism (or at least the current form of it) and right-wing parties should be illegalized worldwide.

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Imho the proletariat neess more class consciousness in order for this to be feasible.

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It isn’t feasible, period, until Socialism is achieved, which requires a smashing of the bourgeois state and a replacement with a democratic worker-government.

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I wholeheartedly agree with you.

I just put increased class consciousness as a prerequisite to ending capitalism.

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And it doesn’t make communism sound scary at all, but rather mysterious, alluring, and worth checking out.

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Unless you’ve lived in ex-USSR.

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And after looking into it, we find that the Soviets never really achieved communism in anything but name. Once again, like the feudal state they rebelled against before, it was rule by dictatorship, and rations for the people. They just couldn’t give up the idea of a strongman. The people by no means ever owned the means of production in the USSR. Of course, we can never confirm that communism is inherently untenable from their example. The capitalist nations were no help at all, and forced the Soviets to waste resources on a strong military. But even despite their failings, communism was still the best thing to ever happen to Russia. Unfortunately, Russia was also the worst thing that ever happened to communism.

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People who love arguing socialist states fail love to ignore that the reasons are 95% economic interference and outright military intervention or coups from capitalist countries.

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Not arguing anything with you stranger. I know what we’re told in the states, but I don’t think things are quite what we’re told they are.

Just want to share this declassified documents straight from cia’s website. The first little blurb says Stalin wasn’t really a dictator. Do with that what you will. ✌️

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80-00810A006000360009-0.pdf

Also the USSR was a socialisy state, not communist. Communism is a stateless society by definition. The word socialist is literally one of the s’s in USSR.

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It was not a feudal state. It was roughly similar to post-slavery South in the USA.

Yes, I already wrote they didn’t “achieve communism”. It’s the point of my text that they were promising it in the future in exchange for loyalty to a weird system in the present.

Sorry, wrong comment.

and forced the Soviets to waste resources on a strong military.

Oh, so it’s “the capitalist nations”, not the way Soviet system worked, made this so expensive?

But even despite their failings, communism was still the best thing to ever happen to Russia.

Stolypin and Witte are generally considered something much, much better. The closest it came to a normal society with civilization potential.

Unfortunately, Russia was also the worst thing that ever happened to communism.

One could argue Khmer Rouge were that, but IRL communists’ incredible ability to just pretend it didn’t happen makes USSR the most notable example.

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