140 points

I had an ISP try to bill me for an unreturned modem five years ago.

I kept the receipt because I expected them to be so incompetent. Good luck.

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77 points

They ALWAYS try that shit. They never don’t. I keep receipts and photos.

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13 points

Y’all have to use ISP provided modems?

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36 points

I told my ISP explicitly not to provide one as I owned my own

I was out of town when they set it up, guess what was installed

It took a year of calls for the rental to be taken off my bill and they never took the hardware back. I have lots of everything they said (recorded calls and told them I was too since 2 party state)

I love having 1 fucking Option!

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8 points

With my ISP, it’s not an extra charge but included in the rest of the cost so it doesn’t cost me anything extra to use theirs and if/when it fails, I just have to ask for a replacement.

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3 points

Sometimes. I use my own setup whenever possible. But that means I still have the equipment they delivered even though I never asked for it.

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27 points

I had an ISP do the same when I moved out of an apartment in 2016. I still get calls from a collection agency. The number is blocked but if I check my “blocked calls” log it’s been nearly every weekday for 8 years.

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9 points

Your credit must be completely fucked

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30 points

Mine WAS hurting, then I filed fraud charges with the bureaus and copied the email that showed Comcast saying I didn’t owe them anything

Now it’s only experian that keeps getting them about every 6 months, after 4 reports they started vanishing off my report within a week automatically lol

Absolutely insane that companies can just say that you owe them money without ever actually contacting you, sell your “debt” to someone, and have that hurt your credit for 7 years

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9 points

On the bright side two more years and it falls off their report anyway. It would be a mistake to pay it at this point.

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5 points

I pull my credit report yearly. The ISP was never on it. Even if it was, after 7 years accounts are removed from your report.

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2 points

Considering the debt is over 7 years old, it certainly shouldn’t be.

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6 points

Was it Crapcast? I bet it was Crapcast, it sounds like a Crapcast thing to do lol

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5 points

It was spectrum Internet. Charter communications.

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7 points

Formerly known as time Warner cable (TWC) changed their name to try and avoid all the bad rep they rightfully had (and still have).

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6 points

Hah! I just recently got to switch off Comcast to a newer local fiber company. Comcast emailed and texted me for weeks telling me to return their equipment that I never had, but even their website showed I had nothing to return so I ignored it. Eventually the emails changed to “you’ve been charged”, so I called to complain. They assured me that I wasn’t actually charged, and then realized they owed me a prorated refund since I cancelled in the middle of a billing cycle. They absolutely weren’t going to give that back unless I called.

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5 points

They can’t decide whether they’re evil or they just hire the most inept and cheapest people possible.

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3 points

You just reminded me I’ve got to mail my modem back. Thanks!

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2 points

Our previous ISP kept after us for a few years to return their modem/router. Only problem was we were a BYO account - we never had a need for their device, nor was it ever on our account or any invoices. A few years later, and every few months afterward (typically after I’ve had to contact them to solve the hell that was constant dropouts - reconnecting 2-4 times a minute) the missing BUDii would pop up again and they’d demand we return or pay for it.

Each time I got snarkier and snarkier, treading the line of being polite and sounding like I wanted to chew their face off. Then I got Betty (fake name) who asked for a moment while she read the correspondence on our account. She commiserated with the troubles we’d been having, clarified notes on our account and then solved what a dozen others couldn’t figure out, and we never heard about the BUDii ever again.

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63 points

Amazon gave me a partial refund for something that arrived with defects and then I requested a full refund because it turns out it was way more broken than I initially thought in exchange for sending it back but I never sent it back and they just approved the full refund.

There is nobody in charge at Amazon costumer support

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39 points

Once had an order arrive on-time, but the tracking information never got updated and kept telling me the package was “running late” and pushing back the expected delivery date, and then after like a week of that they just said “sorry, it’s been delayed indefinitely” and gave me a refund. For an order I’d already received. And I mean, I wasn’t gonna be the one to tell 'em they were wrong.

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20 points

My buddy ordered a 3090 during the covid craze from best buy. He gets an email. Delivery has been cancelled. Item refunded. Gets another email right after. Package delivered. He looks, there’s his free 3090. Lucky SOB.

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7 points

Maaan, all I got was some stupid spatulas.

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7 points

That happened to me too, but they automatically sent me a replacement. I now had 2 huge rugs, so I just returned one for a refund.

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4 points

I have two expensive suitcases now for that reason. I kept both.

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5 points

Because of you, Bezos isn’t a trillionaire yet, I hope you’re happy.

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5 points

Bezos is on his way to personally sue this man.

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15 points

It was probably cheaper for them to just refund you instead of processing a broken item and disposing of it themselves.

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10 points

CS agents have to work a minimum of 17 tickets per hour. Their quality is assessed by How’s My Driving responses from customers, and the HMD have to meet a certain level.

This incentives the agent to wrap the ticket up as quickly as possible, to the best outcome for the customer, in the hopes they leave 5* HMD responses.

CS agent actions cost the company money? Who cares.

CS agents actions were good for the environment? Who cares.

Speed and High HMD is the only two things on a CS agents mind.

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6 points

I ordered something like shampoo. It opened in the box and got everywhere. Amazon wanted me to return it for a refund. The box was soaked. No way I could have returned it.

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3 points

Amazon will often just let you keep items, even if they refund it. It’s generally not worth the cost of shipping back, so they just eat the loss.

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59 points

In this case, “it looks like we received it” sounds like typical AI choosing a response that sounds right with no attention to its meaning.

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23 points

Yep, I doubt the chatbot has direct access to the inventory.

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7 points

One of their marketed features is the ability to access this type of useful information. Amazon is supposed to be one of the leading developers of the technology. I would be more surprised if they didn’t.

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44 points

It’s not surprising here on Lemmy, but on pretty much every other site I’ve ever mentioned issues I’ve had with Amazon, the replies would be filled with people claiming it is the best customer service, that they’ve never had any issues with Amazon at all, and that it must be something I did to cause the problem.

Personally I stopped using Amazon on a regular basis almost a decade ago after it was clear that the company I first started using back in the mid 2000s was irrevocably changed for the worse.

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29 points

People who spend a lot on Amazon have great experiences on Amazon, people who don’t spend a lot on amazon have poorer experiences

I suspect when you contact them there is a dashboard that tells the customer service operator how much effort they should put in to retain you as a customer.

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4 points

You probably need to stay within a certain ratio of returns vs keeping stuff, and as long as your score is good, they’ll honour returns without asking too much questions. We definitely return a lot of stuff without having any trouble, but we only return like less than 1% compared to what we buy.

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the replies would be filled with people bots claiming it is the best customer service

There are no women people on the internet.

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-1 points

Nah, that’s just a cop-out if not an outright strawman.

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0 points

And inventing a bunch of people who do nothing but sing the praises of amazon isn’t?

People have been shitting on Amazon for years, you haven’t exactly stumbled on a revelation. You’re not some outsider who’s the only one who sees the truth.

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Or you let your hatred of corporations lead you off into fantasy land 🤷‍♂️

My family must have spent 50 or 60k at Amazon over the years and have never had more than an annoyance they was quickly fixed by a CSR.

But yeah, I guess we’re all getting tricked into liking the store 🙄

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Ive had this happen a few times. It goes something like this:

  • i buy product and initiate return
  • i ship item with return label
  • as soon as return label is scanned then amazon will release the funds back to me
  • if for some reason they don’t get that package then they say they didn’t get the item back and take the funds back. When this has happened to me it has been 6+ months later
  • when i asked amazon about it they just tell me they didn’t get it back. I tell them i have the shipping confirmation receipt and that this is someone else’s problem and not mine.
  • there’s a lot of back and forth and eventually they act like they’re doing me a favor by giving me my money back

I think the problem was one of the drop off locations we used was stealing products, or just straight up losing them. But it is insane to me that amazon comes back 6 months later. The only thing worse than buying a broken dildo on amazon is returning the broken dildo and still getting charged for it. Getting fucked by the broken dildo twice and not in the ways i had hoped!

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I always take it to my UPS store down the road instead of boxing it up and sending it out. You don’t package the item up at all. They scan the barcode on my phone and take the item. Done, return processed. If they steal it afterwards, not my problem since the code was scanned and you get a notification/receipt. They have a lot of strange locations you can take it to, including random big box stores.

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5 points

That’s what we were doing. It can still happen. If the item isn’t received back by Amazon for some reason then they charge you for the product again, even if 6+ months later.

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4 points

That is some definite bullshit. I am both a software developer and a controls engineer. That stuff irritates me to no end, but I also understand how these systems can fail. They will always protect themselves over the user/customer, so thus we suffer. Hell, I used to do Amazon projects on the controls/industrial side. Amazon had their own software systems that they built/stole running things overall, so thankfully I didn’t have to deal with trying to make them happy on the software side too. I much prefer programming the machinery.

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