Every goddamn time

#BothSiders often end up repeating Republican talking points

Of course the both sides argument comes from the right because America has no left

Not with any sort of majority aspirations, that’s for sure.

and I woulda gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for you meddling kids

Often? I’ve never seen it NOT that way, and I’m a huge fan of nuance. With them, I just can’t see any justification for that argument.

Thanks for saving me the effort of pointing this out.

“Yeah, I don’t agree with his racism, but I can’t support post-partum abortions by feeding babies to coyotes so we can afford to pay for 25 billion illegals to stay in the Ritz Carlton like the Democrats do. #BothSides”

Oh this is the classic : “I’m socially progressive, but fiscally conservative” LOL

The thing is real fiscal conservatism relies on evidence. They just want to sell off the government so they can make a profit replacing it. A real fiscal conservative would have already passed universal education, universal healthcare, universal background checks, taken military procurement to task, and repealed half of the laws restricting unions.

The Republicans talk about laws that spend less and create more revenue, but they fight tooth and nail against ones that actually would do that.

no no, republicans don’t want the govt to make revenue. tax cuts, ridiculously complicated tax code, gutting the IRS… all to let rich people keep as much money as possible.

Or as they say, “make government small… Enough to drown in a bath tub”

Rich people making more money is true Republican goal and the reason for everything else. Co-opting the deranged fanatical Christian sector was just part of the strategy to achieve that.

Well the bar is six feet under when you compare Democrats to Republicans. Democrats appears leftwing simply because Republicans went further to the right on the spectrum unfortunately. If you place Democrats in Canada or Western Europe, they would be considered a right wing government, or centrist if we stretch it.

So much this. The only thing that remedied US Democrats in this sense was their LGBT stances being more progressed than in many Western European countries. Otherwise they are in the right/far right/neoliberal spectrum by European standards.

At this point anybody can just download all the financial freedom they want, nobody is stopping us. So our votes only even matter for social issues anymore.

Code for “I’m conservative but know a gay person and/or once smoked a marijuana.”

“I want to smoke weed and not pay taxes and I lack basic empathy for anyone with problems worse than my own.”

Fiscally conservative somehow means hoarding money under the mattress instead of investing in projects like infrastructure, an educated populace, a healthy populace, or an environment that is habitable.

Actual centrists recognize how extreme the right has gotten, and vote accordingly. Bothsiders are the brainless, egotistical tools of the far right, going along with normalizing fascism because they don’t want to think too hard.

… and because they want slaves back. The right is focused on having women-slaves and immigrant-slaves. Take away rights, invent crimes, jail, enslave.

That’s because slavery is great for the ~~economy~~ capital-hoarding class.

It’s because they identify 100% with the party but don’t want the negative flack it rightfully deserves, so they pretend to be centrist.

This has actually been studied

Anti-Authoritarians and Moderates view it as best to be seen as Anti-Authoritarians, Authoritarians view it best to be seen as Moderates.

They literally view opportunistic claiming of the center not just as a political tool but as a social survival tactic to not be ostracized for their bullshit.

Drag would like to have a link to a study so drag can cite it in the future

What makes you qualified to speak for the entire drag community?

Exactly this. Many of them are concerned about how it might affect their work too and their families if they found out they’re were horrible racist people.

It’s part of the reason why the KKK wore clokes

It used to be libertarians that did this shit. Too afraid to commit to the bit, but still want to appear as if they’re the good guys.

yeah… Here in Australia, they were also the only political party around who never removed their shitty signage after the election (and they legally have to). I’m surprised the Election council didn’t do it for them and send them the bill. I think the problem with those wankers is that they constantly try to get away with dodgy actions, and they end up being successful so many times, that they just keep doing it

I’ve had these geniuses defend racists by demanding, ‘well when did he say he was a racist?!’ As if the only possible way a label could apply is if a person says so. No wonder they think this fools anyone. All it takes to convince them is the right person saying “nuh uh.”

Everytime I have a discussion with someone who says “both sides are the same”, they always end up voting right. I ask if both sides are the same why not vote left?

I don’t think that “both sides are the same”, but there is a Venn Diagram of shared interests under the two party system; the overlap is fairly large (e.g., both parties are susceptible to lobbying, both parties fight to maintain first past the post voting, etc.)

Everybody votes right-wing in usa. There are no left-wing candidates just liberals.

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