#quietpartoutloud

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“Many of them murdered far more than one person,” Trump declared. “A murderer, I believe this, it’s in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now.”

And he will still be normalized as a presidential candidate by this evenings news and by the country on election day.

I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

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FYI, I’m not ok with this. Tho’ I’m glad he’s saying the ‘quiet part out loud’, so that there can be no question on the importance of voting him and the rest of the GOP down in this election.

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I would have agreed with you in 2016 but if the last 8 years has shown me anything it’s that Trump is normalizing the worst of people. He keeps saying the quiet part out loud till the right is screaming it

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The Overton Window is a thing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

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Shameful.

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I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

A relatively small subset of people are okay with this as long as it continues to keep them in power and make them rich, another small subset of people are okay with this as long as it continues to be targeted exclusively at people they don’t like, and a relatively large subset of people are victims of propaganda and media saturation. Let’s put the blame where it belongs.

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I don’t know if it’s a relatively small subset when there’s a fair chance he might be elected if people don’t go vote, or vote for a third party candidate.

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Most of the people who vote for him will never be informed about the most appalling and repulsive things he says, because all their news comes filtered through media streams that are designed to prop up the conservative candidate, no matter who, and to discredit the facts that makes that candidate look bad.

But even if everyone who voted for him knew he said these things, they would still be the minority of Americans, because he lost the popular vote in 2016.

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That would be the large subset who are victims of propaganda. I refuse to believe that such a large percentage of the country would actually be as awful as they seem if it wasn’t for the propaganda machine doing its thing.

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You can talk about the reasons voters might be tricked, incentivized, propagandized, etc. into voting for Trump but at the end of the day they are making the decision to support this kind of thing of their own free will. Placing the blame somewhere else is easy. The hard part is coming to terms with the fact that the fundamental problem is not a shady group of billionaires gaming the system but rather a population too dumb and lazy to see those actions for what they are. That problem isn’t going away even if we get rid of all billionaires and enforce stricter truthfulness in broadcasting laws.

I’m not denying it would get easier to manage if did those things but we have to recognize that the people you’re talking about are willing participants in this and not just victims being taken advantage of.

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You’re not wrong. I’m sure some of the Germans who voted for Hitler and perpetrated horrors for the Nazi regime were misled and propagandized.

But they were still Nazis and still committed a genocide.

We’re going to have to do the same work Germany did with de-Nazification.

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NYT tomorrow: “Harris under fire for [placeholder] after controversial Trump radio interview”

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The US has always been okay with this. They don’t teach this in school. But they should. The United States was one of the biggest inspirations to the Nazis. From the Jim crow south beating, jailing, and suppressing their unternensch. To the fabulously wealthy capitalists practicing eugenics on their untermensch. Literally, the only slight new take the Nazis had. Was the fantasy ayrian precursors.

Hell even lemmy’s perpetual good boys. Well if you’re talking too ML or tankies. Had a very cozy working relationship with Hitler. Invading Poland. Even when they broke it off. Stalin went on to massacre thousands of ethnically polish citizens within Soviet borders.

None of these groups ever really had any repercussions from this. One of the big reasons the Nazis failed was Japan’s attack on Pearl harbor. Which finally tipped things from the American fascists quiet support of Hitler with public calls for isolationism. Turning away boats of Jewish refugees. Combined with the discovery of the death camps. Without those things, the US would have stayed out while continuing to support Hitler. But IBM never faced repercussions for helping Hitler catalog and track Jews on the way to slaughter. DuPont was never held responsible for making and supplying the gas to Hitler to slaughter the Jews. Our fascists simply bid their time. Russia going from authoritarian to fascist authoritarian government today. With our fascist capitalists slowly dismantling our democracy over the last 100 years. Only some fascists lost WWII.

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Exactly, thank you for the great response.

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If they want to look for these “bad genes”, all the Republicans have to do is look in a mirror.

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The majority of us most certainly are NOT; the sane ones are just underrepresented in our archaic voting system.

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I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

Absolutely fucking not!

It is literally a matter of life and death that we not only stay mad about this, but get a Hell of a lot madder than we already are!

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Where’s Edward R. Murrow when you need him?

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come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

“This” is what happens when a society has no hope. A brutal side effect of economic policy and fleecing of the population over the past 30 years. People turn to religion and strong men for succour. They are swayed by bullshit and manipulated to serve the interests of the powerful.

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It is almost like he is a Nazi.

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Nazis were big fans of American eugenics advocates.

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I do Nazi what you’re talking about… Might I interest you in a MyPillow for the low low price of $14.88?

I wish it were \s :,(

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Wow, that type of wordplay is just uncalled for Anne Frankly, I won’t stand for it.

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NYT: “Did Trump say immigrants have ‘bad genes’? MOSTLY FALSE. Trump was actually critiquing immigrants’ choice in denim jeans.”

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Lol

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He didn’t say murder was in the genes, he said your ass looks killer in those jeans!

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Ahh, so he must be a big time jeans traditionalist. Blue or bust.

Explains why he keeps muttering under his breath about the black and brown jeans in this country. It all makes sense now.

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Wow! The year is 2024, and the Republican candidate is running his platform on genetic cleansing. I did not-see this coming, who could have possibly predicted it?

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We knew it. We said it. Its plain as day and the news media will ignore it. The pundits will walk it back. The public will defend it. And we will be Christo-fascists.

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You mean White Nationalist Christo-fascists?

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Pretty much. I’d rather a revolution break out then see this NAZI be president again.

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And half the planet will die as a result, either through genocide or nuclear escalation

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The thing is though, his base of white xenophobic cornfed redneck inbred ignoramuses will love him all the more for it. And that’s a good 40% of the US population.

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Crazy, right? Always has been, too.

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He says this kind of crap literally every day. Didn’t he say Harris voters would be in danger like, literally yesterday? It’s not “stunning” anyone anymore, we’re just supposed to act like people in power actually care that he’s a xenophobic, narcissistic fascist. Headlines like this are supposed to comfort us into believing that those with power are actually stunned or upset by what he said. Every day? For eight+ years? Get the fuck out of here.

Won’t someone please think of our leaders’ pearls.

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It’s better to have it reported than for us all to be normalized to a potential president wholeheartedly adopting fascist language.

It’d be better if a pearl clutcher passed a law or something, but with half of them frothing at the chance to turn on their own constituents…

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Reporting on it just fans the flames, generates the drama he needs to stay at the forefront of the news cycle. Can Harris generate that kind of chatter with sensible talk about realistic proposals? This dispirits Dem voters, while emboldening his base who laugh behind their hand at Trump’s boorish political incorrectness. Jester’s Privilege. He has never suffered any consequences for anything he’s said.

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