Summary

Trump won Dearborn and made significant gains in Hamtramck due to anger among Arab American and Muslim communities over deaths in Gaza, Lebanon, and Yemen.

Trump received 42.48% of the vote in Dearborn and 42.7% in Hamtramck, compared to 36.26% and 46.2% for Vice President Kamala Harris, respectively.

Despite Trump’s victory in Dearborn, the Republican nominee for U.S. Senator lost to the Democratic nominee.

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Oh great, we’ve reached the blaming minorities part of the program.

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I blame the smallest minority: jill stein

Can’t wait four the next 3 years of nothing from her.

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If Jill Stein wasn’t there those people would’ve voted for someone else or stayed home. The democrats had a whole year to tell Bibi to knock it off, and they didn’t.

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Yeah can’t wait till trump tells Bibi to knock it off /s

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Stein voters werent a deciding factor in any swing states. So maybe they contributed, but theres more to it than that.

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I wish I had that gif of Dems plugging their ears while walking past genocide protestors outside the convention this year.

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Yes, I’m sure that will cancel out the increase in genocides and human rights violations likely to happen under Trump’s admin

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Not saying that. I think it shows very succinctly how the Dems always ignore different parts of their “big tent party” to court moderates that don’t vote for them. It shows how out of touch they are and they will still refuse to learn anything.

Just blame the people protesting genocide. The people with energy and motivation to do something. Keep ignoring them instead of talking to them or listening to them. If they just pretend to give a damn, people might surprise you. A lot of people want to know their voice is being heard. Ignore them like children in the video and get ignored back.

I know the US isn’t going to stop backing Israel. They are a strategic military position that the US might use in the future. I know this, but it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t listen to voters concerns. Especially if I was the DNC and wanted their vote. We aren’t going to get anywhere just ignoring each other.

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Who’s that woman in front? Feels like I’ve seen her before.

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No clue, but she might be a local rep for you?

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They just signed Gaza’s death warrant.

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No. The election results are a blowout, larger than just this subcommunity.

I’m annoyed at Muslims for failing to back Harris and prevent the future atrocities. But I will not blame them. Trump got too many votes in general, and might even win the popular vote.

EDIT: We need a bigger reckoning than just blaming a minority of the minority. I don’t want to blame Harris either, she seemed to do the best that she was given but it always was long odds given that she’s a Half-Indian Half-Black Woman. (Racism from Whites, Racism from Indians for being a race-traitor, and then sexism from everyone including minorities).

But this is a bigger election loss than “just” a minority failing to show up to vote. We lost the Senate, Presidency, and probably the House.


EDIT: Kamala needed to win PA, WI, and MI. She literally lost all three of them. A large outspoken minority of just one State (MI) is not to blame for the PA or WI losses.

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I agree with you in general but you should be blaming Harris. Have you even been keeping up with her campaign? I couldn’t believe that shit and I’m not even American. She managed to squander a massive headstart by… Being Harris.

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What does that even mean?

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You’re annoyed they didn’t back the person providing the weapons to kill their families?

This election loss had nothing to do with her gender or ethnicity. She was a shit candidate that alienated huge chunks of the population.

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“I would do nothing different than Joe Biden”

– Kamala Harris

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They took the pistol out of the person’s hand that was pointed at them and replaced it with a bazooka. Good job. Very well thought out /s.

How do you not get this?

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I don’t want to blame Harris either, she seemed to do the best that she was given but it always was long odds given that she’s a Half-Indian Half-Black Woman. (Racism from Whites, Racism from Indians for being a race-traitor, and then sexism from everyone including minorities).

This is bullshit rhetoric. She ran a shit campaign of trying to appease republican voters and cater to the snowflake right wing fear machine by shushing Palestine voices to back genocide directly and trying to sound tougher on immigration and border policy in the face of literal fascist policy campaigns by Trump. This is 100% the fault and failure of the Harris campaign’s strategy and the DNC for being so chicken shit scared of losing that they kept the corpse in chief in the running for too long. Catering to the fascist right policies never works and ignoring insanely popular progressive policy always fails. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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I will say a large swath of the country moved to the right (anti-immigration, anti-trans, etc) and so trying to push progressive values in a time where people believe progressive values are what led to inflation is a losing argument as well that wouldn’t have gotten much national support.

There were literal commercials framing Kamala as a villain for having empathy about trans people in prison.

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They all get to share the blame. What are you even trying to say? “Damn guys, I voted for hitler but it’s okay he won by more than a single vote so I didn’t even matter”

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I’m saying we needed like 10-million more votes to even reach parity with Biden 2020 here.

Complaining about a few hundred-thousand votes in one, albeit important, swing state, is missing the forests for the trees. This is a resounding defeat of the Democrat’s platform this year.

The platform goes above and beyond just Harris btw. I’m including “Fascism” and other such arguments we used online / memes that clearly didn’t work well enough. We need to talk about everything and prepare for 2026 and 2028.

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You can blame lemmy.ml for their strategic manipulation

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You can blame us for this application, sure. Having an impact on the results of this election? Unlikely

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That death warrant was signed October 7 2023

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Hey don’t I remember reading 189,237,490 conversations about this exact thing for the last 8 months? Where everyone was begging third party voters to bite the bullet, please, for the sake of the future of democracy in America and even a slight attempt at survival for Gaza and y’all all told us to go fuck ourselves because we all love genocide? Yeah remember those conversations?

Anything to add now? Are you happy? We told you this would happen. We begged you to please reconsider your stance for the good of everyone. But no, we’re just a bunch of dumb assholes who aren’t educated enough about the war in the middle east.

Learn to see the world around you, please.

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THEY WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED AND THE RESULTS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME. You are willing to hurt down ballot races.

Take some responsibility for YOUR CANDIDATE.

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Hey, at least Palestine won’t be an issue in 4 years!

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Third party voters didn’t do this. Trump still won by a lot even if all 3rd party went blue. Don’t act so smug.

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This study from 2014 really explains this election for me.

For the bottom 90% of the US population, democracy fundamentally does not exist. The actions of legislators reflect the opinions of the wealthiest 10% of the population.

“Democracy,” for 90% of the population, is a complete sham. Since 2016, Democrats SHOULD have been taking a hard left turn towards progressive populism. They should have been pursuing policies that are actually popular among the common people, even if those are unpopular among their wealthy donors. But while they ran on the idea of democracy, Democrats have done NOTHING to make their party actually reflect the needs of regular people. They should have been offering a bold vision to help the American people. But the DNC decided that the whims of donors was more important, and they lost as a result.

Why would you expect people to care for a democracy that means nothing to them?

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Why would you expect people to care for a democracy that means nothing to them?

Because the other alternative is to take everything you hate about the way it all works and make it objectively worse, balanced even worse out of your own favor.

Look, I do understand that American democracy is fundamentally broken, and I empathize with that. I too wish for a viable third party candidate to break us out of this hellscape. But this wasn’t the time. So instead I voted for the party that’s been pushing RCV initiatives in some areas rather than handing a win to the party that promised they would abolish elections. On one hand we have a possible path forward and on the other hand we have guaranteed destruction, I don’t like it any more than the next person but I consider a vote against guaranteed destruction to have been one that wasn’t wasted. I hate that that is what American politics have come to at this point in time but I can observe the world around me and act accordingly.

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If true, fucking morons. You just handed the keys to the guy who is single handedly going to let the Middle East burn.

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You mean the ME that’s currently burning?

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Yes, why I used the word “let”. It converts it is currently in progress.

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Time to learn that yeah, it can get worse

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Wait til he suggest (again) to just nuke it.

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Biden/Harris has finished the job, there is no more Gaza to nuke

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If all of these people voted Harris, Trump still won.

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Well now you’ve handed Gaza to the butcher and good luck if you want to protest without getting arrested.

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To be fair protesters were already being injured and arrested. I know we’re all still hurting at the election loss but let’s not kid ourselves with the current administration either.

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You might want to start drinking heavily for what comes next.

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If every single Jill Stein voter had voted for Harris instead, Trump still would have won.

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They’re complete fucking idiots throwing away their vote . . . but at least they went to the trouble of voting?

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Voting is always better than not voting, yes.

And in a functional democratic system, voting for a candidate who’s against genocide would be better than voting for a candidate who’s currently part of the government supplying the genociders.

Sadly, the US aren’t such a system.

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