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they said to “educate yourself”, not “get education from experts and professors”

checkmate

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I did my residency for 3 years on TikTok and I have a PHD from YouTube.

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Mommy blogger of the lake, what is your wisdom?

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Dip your taint in water that touched ginseng.

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Vaccines don’t cause autism

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You joke, but I have watched so many YouTube tutorials on unreal engine, Godot, and Blender to learn game development stuff. I wouldn’t say I’m an expert. But I definitely know a lot more than I did a few years ago.

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Does Blender cause autism?

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I’m going to guess you did more than just watch videos… If you also applied that knowledge in practical work, you did educate yourself on how to use those tools.

Whatever you made is the validation/grading of your education. IMO that’s a perfectly valid way to get an education, for those kinds of topics. It’s much more risky to grade yourself on abstract knowledge where you can’t directly make something and see if it works or not.

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Sucking down high quality content has unintended consequences of educating the masses on random shit haha

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Ah, a fellow Prager U alum.

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I see nothing about her googling experience!

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How many hours has she logged on Facebook?

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What do actual doctors who have studied for years know?!? My grandad said rub some dirt in it. Sure, my niece died of e-coli, but it wasn’t the rare pork, she just didn’t pray hard enough.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_MMR_autism_fraud in case anyone isn’t familiar with the study you’re talking about. Imagine being wrong so hard that you lose your license to practice medicine but keep up the act for decades afterward. Wakefield is such a piece of shit.

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That guy committed crimes against humanity. What a thorough grifter

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Figured the fraud mentioned in the wiki article covered the “dishonest” part and “wrong” was easier to prove. I can’t rule out the possibility that he’s in so deep that he really believes what he’s saying (not that it’d make the situation any better).

Sucks to hear that you’ve had bad reactions in the past but I’m glad it didn’t turn you against them as a whole. Hopefully enough of the rest of us can get them and lower the overall risk of illness when flu season rolls around.

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IIRC, he wasn’t even anti vax at the start. He was being paid to peddle separate vaccines and claimed it was just the MMR jab that could cause autism.

Which is still bollocks anyway, but people will do anything to deny that autism runs in their family…

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And if only, it was just him in the autism field. SBC isn’t better than him on the piece of shit scale.

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There’s a whole industry of quacks exploiting families desperate for answers and solutions when they feel out of their depth with a child they don’t fully understand. Makes me sick.

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I love when people claim to not trust the science of vaccines. Vaccines created using the same scientific method that allowed the invention of the smart phones they’re typing from. The same science that allows for all modern medicine, energy production, manuacturing, etc.

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People that don’t trust or “believe” science are too stupid to connect those dots.

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most cookers don’t understand what the scientific method is. my brother thinks it’s like some list of formulas scientists use to see if something is true or not, not the entire actual process around theory/observation/evidence/peer review. they thibk “science” indoctrinates people to think a certain way and that scientists somehow are told to ignore everything not in a textbook. no explaining how wrong this is in over 3 years has helped

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I mean, the scientific method produces mistakes - it’s just that the scientific method is also intended to fix those mistakes over time. Being critical of research is helpful for the correct functioning of the scientific method, but this has nothing to do with conspiracy theorists who will question the overwhelmingly corroborated general principles that determine the functioning of AC or light bulbs.

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I think you’re missing that she is a pediatrician and not just a “doctor.” Pediatricians administer a big majority of vaccines and care for the patients receiving them. They probably do learn a hell of a lot more about them than, say, an oncologist who spends all their time treating cancer in old people. And they see the effects of them up close in the field. Any doctor is constantly researching and staying up to date. A pediatrician worth their salt is very well educated on all relevant studies even if they didn’t conduct those studies with their own two hands. I reject the notion that you need to conduct the studies to know the science: that’s a ludicrous bar for us to set.

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The point is that her education or anecdotal evidence is not relevant to begin with.

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That is neither accurate nor the point.

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In even more fairness, reading memes on Facebook makes you even less of an expert on vaccines.

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Nowhere did the woman in the image claim to be an “expert,” though, so why bring it up? Everyone giving advice about something doesn’t have to be an expert.

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Perhaps agree she’s not an “expert” but she’s certainly “educated”

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Sure, but the person told her to educate herself which she responded to.

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You can get into a research career as an MD too. It’s not strictly clinical practice.

We’re all encouraged to publish papers.

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In all fairness downplaying medical school makes you ignorant

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Med school is definitely not a trade school. The amount of material I learned per day in med school was about the same quantity as a week of college.

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First of all, fuck you. Nowhere did anyone say she was an expert. Like let me just pick up this goal post and move it.

Second of all fuck you. You don’t need to be an expert know the experts opinion.

Did I mention, fuck you?

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You ok?

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Better now

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Anyone who tells you to “educate yourself” probably barely made it out of high school.

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Censoring a slur doesn’t really make it less of a slur.

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First of all, you don’t need to censor yourself. Everyone knows what you wrote and the teacher isn’t going to get mad at you.

Second, censoring slurs is still a slur. Cut it out. You know better, hence the censor, but you chose to be an asshole anyway.

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No I think it’s fair to use against people who SHOULD rightly be wiser than they are ever capable of demonstrating.

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The only person who ever basically said that vaccines cause autism was Andrew Wakefield and he was a con artist who was trying to sell his special magic don’t give you autism vaccine, which turned out to be the same stuff as the “autism vaccine” or in some cases saline.

He had his medical licence revoked. He should have gone to prison.

Only morons believed him, and only morons continue to believe him.

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Oh there have been plenty of others who also have said it, like Jenna Mccarthy

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She’s just copying Wakefield, he was the first. Prior to him no one had really raised the possibility because it’s bloody stupid.

He just fed on parents desire to blame something on their child’s autism diagnosis. But sometimes things just happen.

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I suspect they mean the only person with any kind of “scientific” presentation, and everything after that has been a game of telephone amongst the anti-vax crowd.

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The echoes of those morons are why we have a potential measles epidemic on the horizon

Edit: holy shit this post was 5 months ago—not sure how I found myself here

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Oh you really embarrassed yourself there. Fancy replying to such an old post, the height bad form.

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I’ll make sure to give myself the requisite 5 weeks in the Badger pit

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You’re missing a lot of information.

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Such as?

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Disgraced, former Doctor, Andrew Wakefield originally did the report that the MMR vaccine had numerous issues.

He would go on to say that it is better to get the vaccines separately.

It would later be found that he was making 10s of millions selling test kits.

The link between autism and the MMR vaccine wasn’t even direct. It was claimed that the MMR vaccine caused bowel inflammation, which then caused autism.

Real wackadoo science. Not sure how anyone believed it. We are seeing something similar with the aluminum causes cancer and dementia crowd.

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False information. Specially the kind the other person wants to believe in.

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“Educate yourself” means to look up a few random Facebook posts that agree with your viewpoint and tell others that they are stupid for being brainwashed sheeple.

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“Do your own research” and don’t vet the sources

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