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Maybe you should throw more money at the problem. This eventually will help. Right?

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Too bad we’ve never tried that with K-12 in living memory.

I have a feeling the results would be very different than giving money to the capital defense force “law enforcement.”

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Except for the inherently fraudulent charter schools, of course, but those don’t count for a reason mentioned in the beginning of this overlong sentence.

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Charter schools are a trojan horse to let the private sector bleed the last few drops of blood out of our sabotaged, decrepit, starved public K-12 system.

Segregation is bad. Rich kids, middle class kids, and poor kids in an area should have to go to the same public schools in the areas they live in, under force of law. The quality would improve so fast your head would spin. The owners don’t want education to improve for anyone but their kids though. Peasants capable of critical thought are explicitly against their interests.

Instead the rich kids are segregated to private schools to learn not to empathize with their future livestock.

The middle class kids and a handful of tokens are segregated to charter schools, likely to be indoctrinated with “conservative (racist, classist, and sociopathic) principles” at places like challenger schools.

And the poor kids and kids with busy laboring parents are segregated to the ruins of our public K-12 we starved to death. And surprise surprise most of the non-white kids go here. Everything old is new again.

How is this a society again?

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4 points

Wait charter schools get money thrown at them? Mine had a lot less funding than public schools

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19 points

Surely, if we just give the police 80% of our cities budget instead of 70%, they’ll stop murdering innocent people and harassing minorities!

Many cities are literally being held hostage by their police force, who threaten to not only not do their jobs if held responsible for their actions or if their budget is lowered, in some instances police themselves will vow to become criminals if they are held to account.

The police system is literally strong men blackmailing entire communities into funding their own oppression.

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30 points

Police don’t prevent crime, they don’t even solve crime, and they don’t protect people. The only thing they do with any competence is traffic control. We don’t need them.

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Now thinking of it.

-If a crime happens, police are under no obligation to stop it.

-Once the crime happened, the solving if the crime falls under the jurisdiction of non-police (forensics, detectives, etc)

That means the only thing they do is abuse people on demand of those in power.

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The only thing they do with any competence is traffic control.

They do? If that was the case, wouldn’t they actually do something with the rampant amount of bikes without mufflers?

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20 points

Civilian oversight and budget appropriation are an important step.

And by oversight I mean complete voting and staffing powers

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14 points

Make payouts come out of the pension fund. Shit would clean up real quick.

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19 points

Also free Paid Vacation.

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Is there an example of this happening? Would the money not be earmarked?

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You’d think the fact that despite all the money for “training” the keep killing more and more people, would be evidence enough?

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Well, the implication of the comic is that funds for police training go to police militarization. I’m asking if this actually happened, but like you suggest it’s probably more of a vibes thing.

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It seemed like a more specific claim. The culture problems could just be really bad, or the training was lazy or likely both.

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Is it completely unfathomable that the majority of shootings are justified?

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Wow.
Yes.
Cops are not judge jury and executioner, and they should be able to de-escalate almost any situation, it’s literally their fucking job.
Never mind that most other police forces around the world, while also bastards that serve capitalism and the state, still manage to enforce their authority without guns. So maybe just stop there for a minute and think about that entirely fucked up statement you just made, and what makes you think that’s normal, let alone justifiable.

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7 points

Yes. Literally.

If the United States Constitution were really being respected, extrajudicial killings would be exceptionally rare events.

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Yeah, but just as you wouldn’t trust an airline that crashes as often as cops have unjustified shootings, why would you trust cops? One bad apple spoils the bunch. The police force can’t and shouldn’t have unjustified shootings. I understand there are dangers etc etc, but that is something they need to prepare for. They are given greater authority and that should come with greater responsibility.

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2 points

Read the 5th ammendment

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Even in instances where it is used for training, often the training itself is problematic.

See: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/04/daunte-wright-and-crisis-american-police-training/618649/

The answer is not to give more money to police, who already take on average between 30-70% of the entire budget in their cities. The answer is to work towards abolishing the police. This is done a few ways, all simultaneously, and a good first step is things like Eugene Oregons CAHOOTS program or Denver’s STARS program.

See: https://whitebirdclinic.org/what-is-cahoots/
And: https://www.denverpost.com/2022/02/20/denver-star-program-expansion/

Even if you believe in the myth that police are there to protect, 90% of the functions they currently serve have nothing to do with protection, but rather their primary purpose is to ensure compliance and subordination to the systems. Policing is inherently right wing work, and will forever attract primarily right wing individuals.

The vast majority of police functions could and are better served by civilians. So even in you believe that we need police, there’s evidence to show that we don’t need police performing nearly as many functions as they do now. If they are to remain, they should remain only as acute crisis response teams, on a primarily volunteer basis, much in the way the fire department works.

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Oh, that all sounds great. I really was just curious about this specific case of using training money for buying tanks.

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their primary purpose is to ensure compliance and subordination to the systems.

Is the government not to ensure compliance? I don’t see how most laws would work if you don’t need to comply with them. The threat of violence is rarely used, but I would think it still needs to be there in some capacity.

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