So correct me if I am wrong what you are asking is for ukraine to bend over and accept Putin’s dick?
Throughout the “Special Military Operation” advocates have not explained how is it legitimate that Russia invades Ukraine due to Ukraine having a Nazi problem. Neo Nazis exist in some capacity in any country.
Whats more baffling is this seems like an excuse that is written post-hoc to suit the outcome. When there is no care taken to avoid civilian casualities one has to wonder if 12 year old children and their mothers who died were neo-nazis.
Russia’s fascist leadership collapsing would absolutely be a good win to come out of this. Also, yeah, an invaded country fighting back should not be put on the same level as the world power trying to make it a vassal state/pseudo-Colony. Now its talking points about nazis and soon it’ll be that anyone not Russian by blood doesn’t belong there.
Well shucks the core definition of the word “mercenary” means one who is acting out of self-interest rather than loyalty. The only thing these MFs are going to do now is look for work.
There were many senior leaders on the flight: Prigozhin, Utkin (early founder, commander), Chekalov (economic & security leader), Makaryan, Propustin, Totmin, Matuseev (all various commanders). While this seems super dumb to have all these folks on the same flight at the same time, apparently they were. With this much senior leadership now suddenly gone, the Wagner group may be struggling to get their own house in order before they can take organizational action.
There is even military rules since quite long time that says never ever put two important persons in the same plane in wartime.
I mean even if Putin actually “forgave” them, seeing all of them in one spot just makes 100% sense to go get them all in one go.
Lol
Even GoT got that right.
@Valmond @Aesculapius Not just military. Most larger companies in the west have policies against putting too many senior leaders on the same flight. In peacetime.
Could they have been killed in other locations and the plane crashed to conveniently make a public narrative on how they’re no longer alive? The bodies could have been loaded on thvle plane and crashed intentionally for all we know.
Much more complicated than a suitcase bomb. Also if you were the pilot would you fly a bunch of dead guys? How do you think that ends for you?
There are ways… Unmanned plane, pilot parachutes out, kamikaze pilot (dying to regain his honor for putin for a wrong done, ‘you have stage 4 cancer! you do this, we’ll take care of your family’…)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=i3EekrXlGHc&si=6JULV7vWYAzt4Htv
Wow I did not realize Utkin was on that flight. They really got all of them in shot. That flight basically had a sign on it saying “shoot me.”
With not willing leader to take charge it is probably not going to happen, especially after Russia took most of their gear. They’ve had their chance and blew it.
Who’d expect a band of former criminals reborn anew as war criminals to have any loyalty? So long as they get to be out there pillaging and raping they will be kept happy and as loyal as such a band could get.
