There has been something wrong with his brain for years. But yeah, I think it may be getting worse. I hope he is suffering and miserable.

Double the neurosyphilis! Or maybe just double syphilis & give him a different kind of syphilis too.

The judge has all the leeway in this case. Since these crimes were committed to influence an election and undermine democracy, the judge can make him go to prison for the 4 years.

Another factor in sentencing is remorse - Trump has never said he’s genuinely sorry for anything. If the judge isn’t convinced that this is a one time thing (which is tough since it’s 34 charges involving multiple events with multiple accomplices), prison is more likely.

What about the neurosyphilis? Can we still give him neurosyphilis?

4 years maximum.

Which is not typically given to people convicted of this sort of crime, especially on their first conviction.

so what argument is there that Trump shouldn’t?

The American justice system has been successfully boiled down to a pay to play system and it’s unfair to not let other rich people go for more serious crimes, but not Trump .

I mean I don’t think they would be honest enough to run with that, but it’s the only argument I can think of that would be based on an unfortunate truth.

Everyone consciously or subconsciously knows the justice system works differently for different classes. The only reason anyone who leans right actually believes it could be a “witch hunt” is because no one has an iota of faith in the justice system. Sending a “billionaire” to jail is so rare that the possibility of it happening seems suspicious.

It takes a lot of balls to send a former and possibly future president to prison. Way more balls than sending his lackay.

Cohen didn’t need a secret service detail.

The Guardian are reporting it is unlikely he will see jail time

Edit: it’s not a disagree button, it’s being widely reported he is unlikely to see jail time. that doesn’t mean i think he shouldn’t see jail time

Cohen doesn’t have a cult of dimwits willing to betray every value they claim to have in order to vote for him, tho.

Cohen was convicted of tax evasion, bank fraud, and campaign finance crimes. Trump was not charged with any of these. So not the same crimes.

I don’t recall hearing a lot of evidence that Trump conspired with Cohen to evade Cohen’s income taxes, or to lie to Cohen’s bank.

I don’t think Trump is capable of making illegal campaign contributions to his own campaign. There are no limits on self funding an election campaign in this country.

I would entirely agree. But, the world is what it is, and it might be untenable for the justice system or the judge might decide it creates too many opportunities for everything to go wrong on appeal.

Time will tell though, and July is just around the corner.

That’s fair. Being openly remorseless does tend to encourage the judge to give the full extent of what they’re allowed to do.

I’m just cynical about anyone wanting to be the first person to sentence a former president to prison, and maybe finding any possible reasonable way to skirt over that for whatever reason or just “the good of the country”, justice or not.

Or not, and they’ll just seize the opportunity to show that justice is blind.
We’ll find out in July. 😊

Prisons, on paper, have a responsibility to ensure a degree of prisoner safety. The level of effort required to give a former president that safety is beyond what even a white collar criminal oriented prison is going to be able to easily provide without disruption. For example, who would be preparing his food? How many guards would have access to him while he slept?

It’s possible to do, but it’s the sort of thing that could factor into the decision.

I need this. I didn’t know how much I needed this until now.

Oh, I didn’t know that. Fingers crossed then!

Given Trump’s age though, I just don’t think it’s likely - much as I would love to see him behind bars.

Stop saying Cohen got convicted for the exact same crime! It’s misinformation. They both got a completely different set of counts.

I get what you’re saying, but I think without that protection it’s pretty likely he’d be killed in prison.

So you support leaking the country’s biggest secrets just because he did bad thing?

Imagine the Biden campaign constantly trying to get interviews with “the Republican candidate’s probation officer”.

Lolol I didn’t think of that. Imagine Trump trying to go to Russia or something as president and his PO says he can’t leave the country.

Do you know if he starts his sentence while he appeals or is he gonna get off for the next year or so

But iirc sentencing is concurrent, not consecutive.