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Now watch the Republican Party of “Law and Order”nominate a convicted felon to be the next president

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You have to understand that this isn’t ironic to them. To them, this was not a legitimate trial and trumped up charges, if you’ll pardon the pun.

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128 points

The guy behind me that watches fox news all day because “he needs something to help him focus” immediately started spouting fox talking points as soon as the verdict was read. My younger coworkers were like, “no way, that’s crazy” to all his bs. I just had to say, “no that’s not true. I read the jury instructions and they don’t say that.” He moved onto insisting there was no evidence and Cohen perjured himself and at that point I was already on my way out the door.

He’s Gen x, a landlord, new York exile, classic gabagool. Ugh.

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78 points

Gen Xer here that does not share your co-worker’s moronic view. Lock him up!

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16 points

I’d complain to HR that that guy is making the workplace hostile, if not outright tell him to shut the fuck up, but I get that that’s not a safe option at a lot of workplaces

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13 points

Last week I had to remind my parents that FBI agents are cops and pretty much always are authorized to use deadly force…

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I’m Gen X, former New Yorker…and well, he probably is a gabagool. He is representative of all of us…too many, but not all.

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Maybe the phrase “trumped up charges” will have new meaning after today

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77 points

It’s like when you’re guilty of 34 felonies but still pretend you’re innocent to scam idiots

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All the other kids with the trumped up charges better run better run faster than my verdicts

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26 points

I’m hoping the “playing the trump card” will morph into meaning you’re a lying, cheating piece of trash that should be taken outside and tarred and feathered.

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10 points

Trumped up charges, meaning lots and lots of verifiable and provable charges.

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51 points

That’s because his supporters worship him as a new messiah and cannot conceive of him having actually committed a crime. Or they don’t care if he did or not.

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45 points

They don’t care if he did. I’d argue most of his supporters in the party (Mike Johnson for example) know that he is a horrible person but will support him because he has energized a dormant portion of the voting population that can help them to gain and hold power. Trump himself isn’t even that bad, he’s a useful idiot who gives immense power to far right organizations like the heritage foundation.

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Yeah. If the messiah did it then it must be ok so it’s the court that’s wrong.

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30 points

To his supporters there isn’t a legitimate trial.

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Right, there can’t be a legitimate trial because everything is “politicized” and “a witch hunt”.

Weird how they can’t get DAs to bring charges against Hillary or Hunter though.

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I think you’re right, none of this matters to them.They have their judges in place and everything is set up for Jan 6 II, Coup Boogaloo (but this time it will be ‘legal’).

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5 points

Wait, it’s gotta be Camp Coupgaloo

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pardon

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2 points

Heh, pardon.

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78 points

Don’t forget their party of “family values” and “religious morals” candidate who slept with a porn star while his wife was recovering from giving birth to their child

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25 points

And by having sex with a pornstar he was cheating on the playboy model he was cheating on his wife with.

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*third wife

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And he raw dogged.

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They were locker room felonies.

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You know, on balance though, I think I’m glad that being a convicted felon doesn’t preclude one from being elected president. I’ve gone back and forth on it a lot, but I think it is for the best.

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27 points

Absolutely it is, see Nelson Mandela for instance

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Can you elaborate? My knee-jerk reaction is to be against it, but I haven’t thought about it a whole lot and I’d be interested to know why you have decided on the opposite.

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It means if there was an actual politically motivated prosecution, that wouldn’t stop someone from winning. ie. If Trump had managed to make some fake charge against Biden stick in 2020, if the people still wanted Biden to be president, he could be.

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In this case it seems easy to be against it because a widely unpopular candidate is the one being prosecuted.

However, allowing felons to run for office precludes the ability for the government to silence political dissidents by making up laws/falsifying evidence that they can be imprisoned for.

The risk of a Trump presidency is still on the table, but the US can avoid situations like what happened to Navalny in Russia as well.

In the 1920 election, Eugene Debs campaigned as the socialist nominee for president from prison, having been imprisoned for advocating draft dodging. That is the sort of candidate I would still support, even from behind bars.

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Just because you’re a felon doesn’t mean you’re not a citizen and part of the country. As such, you should be able to partake in democracy in all possible ways as well.

I really dislike this punitive mindset of completely ruining someone’s life for being convicted of a crime. People make mistakes, but we don’t want to exclude them from society, we want to reform them and bring them back in. So yeah, I think, even excluding all this political bs, that no person should have their right to vote or run taken from them.

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453 points

To find out what rules he broke for each guilty verdict, search “trump rule 34”

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448 points

Count #1: Guilty

Count #2: Guilty

Count #3: Guilty

Count #4: Guilty

Count #5: Guilty

Count #6: Guilty

Count #7: Guilty

Count #8: Guilty

Count #9: Guilty

Count #10: Guilty

Count #11: Guilty

Count #12: Guilty

Count #13: Guilty

Count #14: Guilty

Count #15: Guilty

Count #16: Guilty

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When the GOP sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are convicted felons.

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326 points

Can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. Get fucked you piece of shit

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269 points

I have doubts he will do any time.

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135 points

I can dream. I guess there’s some consolation to his mind slowly becoming his prison. If anyone deserves dementia, it’s this traitor

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92 points

Asshole kept comparing himself to Capone…

Let’s give him what he wants!

Sentence his ass to 11 years & a roaring case of neurosyphilis.

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I happened to be in my mother’s house when she called me to look at it live and there was zero mention on CNN of whether or not he would serve time over it. Sentencing in July.

Anyone know likelihood of jail time?

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Cohen got jail time for this crime.

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If one is being objective and not paying attention to his former job or publicity, he’s a first time offender convicted of non-violent offenses with a business footprint that makes him low risk for probation violation.
He would also place a burden on the penal system if incarcerated, and his current state of having round the clock law enforcement presence further lowers the likelihood that he goes to prison.

On the flip side, he has done a lot to actively antagonize the person who will be mostly in charge of his fate, and he’s got a good month to build a body of evidence that says he’ll immediately disrespect probation.

So almost certainly not, but it’s not as close to zero as you would expect for a former president.

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Slim chance. It’s his first offence (first conviction anyway) and a non violent crime. Can’t see the judge jailing him, especially given the logistics involved with the Secret Service having to protect him.

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My understanding is that we will see an appeal before sentencing on July 11th. If that is not successful, then he will get anything from a slap on the wrist to jail time. Sentencing is likely going to hinge on if he remains the lead Republican candidate. Jail time is going to have a lot of custom rules and exeptions that we are unprepared for; primarily secret secret protection.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-jury-deliberations-watch-1.7218775 conviction section

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Npr reporter said that each count has a maximum of 1 - 4 years in jail but usually served concurrently and the judge apparently already made a comment about jail time is not a guarantee or something. I am betting another useless fine and maybe some probation.

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I’m not counting on jail time (though I can dream!). Just parroting an oft used law and order conservative catchphrase

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He could simply get parole, but if he does get any Jail time it will be delayed until his defence team have exhausted their appeals. Definitely won’t see jail before the election sadly.

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Basically zero. Even if it wasn’t a political/social crisis to put him in prison, he is a white guy who did a non-violent crime.

The most he would get would be house arrest. Which he would instantly violate.

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He won’t, rules for me and you, not for the ruling class.

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They already let him leave. He’s not setting foot in a blue state again either ever, or until after he takes office. Depending on the election.

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Maybe not, but it still sets a nice precedent that there is no magical spall-trap that will be spring if we convict a former president of crimes.

Now it just needs to be done for something he did in office.

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I imagine that if the judge puts him in jail, preventing him from being elected as president, there’s going to be a lot of shtf. And by a lot, I mean across the entire country.

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Sentence him to two months to be served from November 15 to January 15.

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Some other Lemmy commenter suggested community service instead of jail time.
There’s something very appealing about the prospect of Trump, in a high-vis vest, picking up trash along the side of the freeway.

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Yes, the sentencing ranges from probation to 4 years in prison. Given this is his first conviction and he’s a former president, I assume probation will be given. Though, he’s still under a gag order afaik…so if he violates that or probation somehow, maybe brief house arrest?

I definitely want pictures of him picking up trash with the secret service hanging around, at the very least

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He’s already violated the gag order like 15 times and nothing’s happened.

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Is that 4 years per count or what?

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From Four Seasons Total Landscaping to the side of the freeway. I hope they find Rudy to send with him.

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he would turn it into a publicity stunt fiasco

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Ok but while the secret service would hate jail for him, that’s something they literally have 0 capacity to protect him during

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Says he’ll likely just pay a fine. “Can afford the fine, can do the crime” is more like it.

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