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271 points

I have doubts he will do any time.

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136 points

I can dream. I guess there’s some consolation to his mind slowly becoming his prison. If anyone deserves dementia, it’s this traitor

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93 points

Asshole kept comparing himself to Capone…

Let’s give him what he wants!

Sentence his ass to 11 years & a roaring case of neurosyphilis.

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36 points

I kinda think he may already have neurosyphilis. Didn’t he have weird sores on his hands? Whatever it is, there’s definitely something wrong with that pile of turds and KFC bones he calls a brain.

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17 points

Each count has a maximum of 1 - 4 years of prison apparently. Usually that is served concurrently, but he is technically a first time felon so I doubt he is going to do any time at all.

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2 points

Something tells me the latter has already occurred.

Those spirochetes are leaving hole like a cork screw in his brain.

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It’s… 4 years maximum.

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I happened to be in my mother’s house when she called me to look at it live and there was zero mention on CNN of whether or not he would serve time over it. Sentencing in July.

Anyone know likelihood of jail time?

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69 points

Cohen got jail time for this crime.

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69 points

This needs to be brought up every damned time this subject comes up. Cohen served time for the exact same crime - so what argument is there that Trump shouldn’t?

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34 points

100%, how is this not more significant when people guess whether or not Trump will serve time? Cohen got jail time for this, and he turned himself in, and cooperated.

Trump did nothing redeeming, and he was the guy giving the orders, how is it even conceivable that Trump should be punished less?

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He did not. Cohen pleaded guilty to 5 counts of tax evasion (class B felony), one count of making false statements to a federally insured bank (class C felony), one count of causing an unlawful corporate contribution (class D felony) , one count of making an excessive campaign contribution (class D felony).

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax

Trump was convicted of 34 counts of falsifying business records (class E felony).

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30 points

If one is being objective and not paying attention to his former job or publicity, he’s a first time offender convicted of non-violent offenses with a business footprint that makes him low risk for probation violation.
He would also place a burden on the penal system if incarcerated, and his current state of having round the clock law enforcement presence further lowers the likelihood that he goes to prison.

On the flip side, he has done a lot to actively antagonize the person who will be mostly in charge of his fate, and he’s got a good month to build a body of evidence that says he’ll immediately disrespect probation.

So almost certainly not, but it’s not as close to zero as you would expect for a former president.

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35 points

Cohen got prison time for the same exact crime, also a first offense. To my mind, being a former president should make them hold to to a higher standard, not a lesser one.

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3 points

What about the risk of recidivism though?

Pretty clear that he will do exactly the same thing again.

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17 points

Slim chance. It’s his first offence (first conviction anyway) and a non violent crime. Can’t see the judge jailing him, especially given the logistics involved with the Secret Service having to protect him.

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Cohen served time for this exact same crime in the exact same state. I think he was sentenced to 3 years and did 1.5 due to covid early release. That was also his first felony.

It’s fully possible he gets jail time.

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20 points

Maybe convicted ex presidents shouldn’t get secret service protection

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My understanding is that we will see an appeal before sentencing on July 11th. If that is not successful, then he will get anything from a slap on the wrist to jail time. Sentencing is likely going to hinge on if he remains the lead Republican candidate. Jail time is going to have a lot of custom rules and exeptions that we are unprepared for; primarily secret secret protection.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-jury-deliberations-watch-1.7218775 conviction section

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4 points

Sentencing is likely going to hinge on if he remains the lead Republican candidate

AFAIK no one is left

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Sentencing is likely going to hinge on if he remains the lead Republican candidate.

While you are probably right, that is fucking stupid.

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3 points

I mean, SS protection should be pretty easy if he’s locked in an 8x10 cell.

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12 points

Npr reporter said that each count has a maximum of 1 - 4 years in jail but usually served concurrently and the judge apparently already made a comment about jail time is not a guarantee or something. I am betting another useless fine and maybe some probation.

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11 points

Don’t underestimate the effect of “maybe some probation”. Having to check in with some probation officer on a regular basis (and probably pee in a cup each time, I’m not sure whether NY mandates that) will be super humiliating for him. Plus, I bet that the period on probation will be much longer than any prison sentence, and will extend through the election.

Plus, in the event he still wins, I doubt NYC really cares. They will keep making him pee in that cup until his probation is over.

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I’d bet against your claim. He’s remorseless and antagonizing the judge with so many comments and contempt charges. I’m expecting a Martha Stewart sentence of 5 months (sort of low end of range of jail sentences, so the judge can show he’s being fair), maybe suspended until appeals.

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I’m not counting on jail time (though I can dream!). Just parroting an oft used law and order conservative catchphrase

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2 points

He could simply get parole, but if he does get any Jail time it will be delayed until his defence team have exhausted their appeals. Definitely won’t see jail before the election sadly.

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Basically zero. Even if it wasn’t a political/social crisis to put him in prison, he is a white guy who did a non-violent crime.

The most he would get would be house arrest. Which he would instantly violate.

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13 points

What, like Martha Stewart?

White pepo go to jail all the time, even elderly, grandmotherly types.

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8 points

He won’t, rules for me and you, not for the ruling class.

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2 points

They already let him leave. He’s not setting foot in a blue state again either ever, or until after he takes office. Depending on the election.

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0 points

I imagine that if the judge puts him in jail, preventing him from being elected as president, there’s going to be a lot of shtf. And by a lot, I mean across the entire country.

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1 point

Sentence him to two months to be served from November 15 to January 15.

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Maybe not, but it still sets a nice precedent that there is no magical spall-trap that will be spring if we convict a former president of crimes.

Now it just needs to be done for something he did in office.

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