141 points

He has delivered the largest economic recovery plan since Roosevelt, the largest infrastructure plan since Eisenhower, the most judges confirmed since Kennedy, the second-largest healthcare bill since Johnson, and the largest climate change bill in history.

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and none of it matters because the other side thinks the work of government is to do as little as possible for the people it fleeces.

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And their propaganda has been so good for the last 60 years that even half the left believes it but think they’re immune to it. See motions to every thread in Lemmy

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1 point

Upvotes? Oh, yeah, that tracks.

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9 points

The ones I know think it’s a scheme to bring minority immigrants in and pay them welfare to vote for democrats so they can “destroy us from within” and bring about a worldwide socialist government.

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1 point

I prefer a worldwide New World Order but you take what you can get.

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-3 points

Oh no

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98 points

And yet the quality of life for Americans is still declining, while the wealth gap keeps growing.

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42 points

Yep, and a bunch of the things Biden supporters want to tout are making this problem worse, because his economic legislation and climate legislation and healthcare legislation and all the rest is almost entirely just throwing taxpayer money at businesses and hoping it trickles down to us somehow

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20 points

Narrator - It didn’t.

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6 points

I would argue the quality has been improving as if late. But kind of hard to blame him for the fact that the world was gripped and massively disrupted a by a pandemic and the financial moves by the fed to stave off an even worse financial melt down led to high inflation. But we’re going in the right direction, even if it isn’t fast enough for some people.

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23 points

Wages aren’t keeping up with inflation for most people. The wage increases reported are mostly driven by top earners. It isn’t moving at the bottom. Longer lines than ever at food pantries. I remember when Democrats used to at least pretend to give a shit about that stuff.

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8 points

This has been a decades long problem that he has contributed to over his entire career.

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Research constantly points to things getting worse, especially for younger generations. At best you could say the rate of decline has slowed somewhat recently.

And it’s unfair to blame it on the pandemic, the trends been going on for much longer.

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That has been a trend for decades so it’s not going to turn around overnight. He has made some big steps by expanding numerous quality of life programs.

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Real wages (i.e. inflation adjusted) have been growing for the last year and are now even with what they were before covid.

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In 2019 real wages were on par with what they were in 1973. That is no growth in over 50 years.

Of course things are going to go back to pre-Covid levels post-Covid. That’s not a sign that things are magically fixed. Housing and food costs are at extreme highs, the amount of people working two jobs to survive are at highs, etc. etc. CPI also lags behind on many things such as market rent.

And don’t even get me started on the generational gap, millenials, zoomers, and alphas are all far far worse off than previous generations.

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11 points

Congratulations you swallowed a propaganda line that wasn’t even true when they printed it.

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48 points

Given the congress he has to work with, one could argue he’s been a better President than Obama was.

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He’s been a better president than Obama was.

It’s not particularly close in my opinion.

I’m hella biased, but the SAVE plan and not accruing interest on student loans as long as you make payments is a huge win.

There’s no reason they couldn’t have done this under Obama…

Edit: just wanted to mention that this restructuring for student loans had absolutely nothing to do with Congress

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9 points

The SAVE plan and the rules around PSLF really do make medical school a lot more viable for people like me. Doctors get paid a pittance in residency, and the interest on medical school loans would add up really fast on the old income-driven repayment plans.

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In terms of stuff leftists want, Obama overpromised and underdelivered, while Biden underpromised and overdelivered. I’m not sure he actually delivered all that much more than Obama did on an absolute scale, but when expectations ranged from “1994 crime bill guy” to “at least he’s not Trump,” pretty much any policy that manages to edge past mediocre is a pleasant surprise.

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14 points

I agree too. Obama had charisma and was a great speaker, but policy wise Biden is much better.

If Obama was firmer many current problems would not exist today. But it is easier to say now.

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2 points

Obama had charisma and was a great speaker,

And as we’re seeing now with Biden’s poll numbers, unfortunately, that’s all that matters. Doesn’t matter how many good things you do to help people, all that matters is whether you have charisma and a good media relations team.

People are so stupid. Maybe democracy was a mistake.

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Obama was generally pretty terrible. Obamacare was a disaster and about the only good policies he had were around car emissions, which were significant but still. If you factor in the amount of political capital he had in 2009 it’s sad really.

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Weird, I never see Record oil extraction on his list of accomplishments, I wonder why that is? 🤔

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1 point

Adjusted for inflation?

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102 points

He’s been ok. Way better than that last guy though!

I feel that he is mostly honest and wants to do the right thing but he doesn’t always get it right. At least he tries.

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7 points

If he didn’t run a campaign against Bernie, I’d agree. Bernie could have done wonders for this country.

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3 points

He’s got women and children’s blood on his hands from Palestine. He’s only ok by comparison to the other guy.

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For a president of a war mongering country like the US he is ok. But he is still a president of the US so murdering brown people is a sport for him.

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Obama did pretty okay, I think he saved more brown people than he harmed with his diplomacy and middle eastern border strengthening policies. He was also reported to be very very unfriendly with Netanyahu.

I can’t speak for Clinton, but the people on either end of his administration certainly were shit.

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87 points

Not so subtle reminder that YOU are not immune to propaganda.

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Also propaganda doesn’t come exclusively from newspapers and magazines.

The best form of propaganda in the last couple of decades has been word of mouth.

Don’t trust anyone to tell you what to think. Look at the facts and only the facts.

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11 points

Those facts nobody tells you about?

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Whether someone tells you or you stumble on it yourself.

Peer reviewed studies, direct statistics, etc

A poll is a primary source. That’s good.

An article telling you about a poll is a secondary source. Be skeptical.

And above all, be very skeptical of anything that makes you feel intense emotion. Someone might be trying to make you feel that way so you’ll be less critical.

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10 points

What is this, the 1900’s?

The best propaganda tool is obviously the internet: anonymous, spreads far and wide, can be automated

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I think the biggest risk is the Internet as a propaganda tool disguised as word of mouth ‘grassroots’ opinions.

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“Word of mouth” imo includes direct person to person interaction on social media. Your Facebook friends, a sidebar on reddit or lemmy, a DM

That’s how I’ve always used the term.

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10 points

Do yOuR owN ReSeARcH!!

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Yeah but literally. Not “watch YouTube videos”. Look up a primary source - a statistic or a peer reviewed study.

The insidious part about the “do your own research” people is that they’ve managed to convince a generation of people to NOT do any research.

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4 points

Imagine being downvoted for telling people to seek the truth in what they’re told.

This is lemmy now.

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Facts aren’t facts though.

Both sides of Covid had their facts, and after a few years, both sides had to admit they were wrong about certain things.

I think the other problem with only looking at facts is that it ignores the context.

Take 9/11 for example, the fact was terrorists attacked America, end of story.

But it misses the bigger picture; why did they attack America? There are no “facts” here. We can speculate, or we could take them at their word.

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What an incredibly stupid take. There were hundreds of people trying to figure out why terrorists attacked America. There were books and scientific papers written about it. Just because you never looked into it doesn’t mean there’s no data.

You’re arguing against the concept of truth because you’re too lazy to pursue it.

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83 points

Compared to another 4 years of Trump? Absolutely.

But I don’t have to be ecstatic to choose between a prehistoric career politician, and an embarrassing, felonious dinosaur

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How dare you besmirch the good reputation of dinosaurs like that!

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I mean, at least with dinosaurs the most I have to worry about is being eaten. With our government there’s being eaten AND homelessness!

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6 points

Being eaten cures homelessness!

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76 points

Maintaining the status quo in the face of looming danger does not make you a great president.

The best thing about Biden is that he is not Trump.

Also we’re not only supporting a genocide, we’re footing the bill.

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Word. We’re just in a situation that being a mediocre Democrat is “good”. The bar is in hell.

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I’m 37 years old, the bar has been in hell for my entire existence and more than likely a handful of decades prior

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Big facts. History is gonna treat Biden like it treated Coolidge. Hes good at the appearence of doing his job but will be blamed for lack of action preventing what comes after him. Be it this election cycle or 4 years from now. Hes letting the fascists have their dress rehersal at the southern border and it’s far from the first time hes refused to go hard on fascism. It’s becoming a matter of when, not if.

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We’re Americans son, we’re built off of genocide and slavery. It’s the only way of life that we know.

I can’t wait for the day that climate change truly wrecks this country of mine, like gods fury on Sodom and Gomorrah.

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