How to get out of an uncomfortable egg culture situation with this one simple trick.

Real talk: Calling people eggs is a violation of the egg prime directive, and is considered invalidating as you are trying to say that a person is not the gender they identify as, that their identity is invalid. Don’t call people eggs, like ever, it’s extremely uncool.

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Femboys are boys and transgirls are girls.

It’s even in the fucking names

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51 points

Confusingly, tomboys are girls.

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Another term is tomgirls. Now even more confusingly, many of the girls who appreciate this tomboy style actually call themselves “Bois”

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It must be difficult for straight people who have to navigate these terms before they allow themselves to want to put their dick in something

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Wait when did “egg” in the context of gender and sexuality become a thing?

“You egg” is an old insult in New Zealand since at least the 1980s meaning you are a dork or loveable idiot.

Edit: there’s heaps of examples in Taika Waititi’s NZ films.

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Realising one is trans is often called “cracking your egg”. Calling someone an egg in this context means insinuating the person is trans (and hasn’t realised it yet).

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@tb_ thanks, got it. Has it been a thing for many years or is it new?

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Not many years, but far from new in internet time scales. Maybe in the last decade or so.

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Not necessarily trans, it’s just being unsure about which gender direction you want to choose. Nonbinary and “actually I am cis” are also valid outcomes after cracking.

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Wild that you just called gender a choice

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Shakespeare uses it too!

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@JohnDClay @Malgas omg this is as good as the time I found out Hieronymous Bosch had painted a kiwi bird.

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Can you share a Pic of the Kiwi bird please ? 🥺

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It’s similar to being in the closet. When you come out as a trans person, you “come out of your shell” so to speak. As such, people who haven’t are considered to be “eggs” still inside their shells.

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While we are talking about that, wouldn’t chrysalis be more fitting?

When the trans person hatches a beautiful butterfly emerges from the chrysalis.

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They say that when the egg cracks, a cute chick comes out. Chick referring to both a trans woman and a baby chicken. Doesn’t work for trans men but that’s how the term started I believe.

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Perhaps. I didn’t make the analogy. Personally, as a completely cis person, I think they both work really well. Maybe there’s some more significant meaning from another perspective.

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I think if you make sure to call someone an “igg”, or preferably, a “bliddy igg”, then should still be fine

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Preferably while listening to Iminim’s Lose Yoursilf.

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@Viking_Hippie aww man now I know how Americans feel when people reference Trump’s stupid sayings as if it’s their national culture.

Hadn’t thought about those assholes in a while.

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@porous_grey_matter I think I just need to make sure I only use it on other Kiwis.

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Not the birds, though. That would be the equivalent of calling them babies, which I’d imagine they’d find very insulting.

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Also Shakespeare:

What, you egg! [He Stabs Him]

Macbeth Act 4, Scene 2

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Fem boys aren’t an example of an egg anyways. If a person is calling a femboy an egg they are completely misunderstanding what an egg is.

Eggs are funny and sometimes adorable because they don’t quite know who they are and they give hints at who they want to be. A femboy is someone who knows who they are.

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Nah, my gf used to identify as a femboy. She was right, she just didn’t have the whole picture. She’s bigender.

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Well. I don’t know what the egg cues would be for someone who is a bigender femboy. They would probably be very subtle if there even were any.

Gender is such a complex, beautiful thing.

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There is a general rule in the LGBT+ community now we have a lexicon (and some indices) of terms by which you can navigate your desires, feelings and behavior.

That lexicon exists to help you sort out who you are. It’s not there for you to categorize other people. People really don’t fit into categories (in any sense) and there are always outliers and fringe cases.

If someone starts an I wonder if I’m an egg conversation, its okay to engage with awareness of comfort levels. We each are captains of our own respective identities.

The hardest thing for people to grok is identity ≠ behavior. The continued necessity of the closet means we are still not free to be our true selves in public. Yes, this can be weird, but even close friends can gatekeep by surprise. We need room to explore and be cautious, even if you, personally are dedicated to inclusion and tolerance.

So yeah, if someone seems enby or trans to you, they remain whatever they identify as, and only they get to decide when it is open to discussion.

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I don’t know why people can’t just let other people live their lives in peace.

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