- “Schneider is a known transphobe and anti-vaxxer”
- “a Canadian medical nonprofit”
- 🤨
- just how many red flags did they ignore?
Yeah, I think Schneider is a dipshit and a bigot, but this one is on the organizers. Were they expecting “makin’ copieees” and shit?
Is this what happens when you choose from “entertainers” list by sorting by “price - low to high”? Is this really a surprise when you shop from the clearance rack?
Were these organizers looking at the list and saying “Hmm, Carrot Top is a bit too ‘high brow’ for our engagement. Who else do we have?”
I wonder if this was a case of someone seeing a “big name” but being clueless about his history and thinking, “I recognize his name, must mean he’s popular.” Then they hired him without vetting because he had a recognizable name and they believed he was therefore popular and “cool”. I mean, I know who Rob Schneider is because I’ve heard his name get thrown around a lot, but I had no idea he was a bigoted piece of shit because I’ve never (knowingly) watched any of his movies, nor do I keep up with celebrity gossip.
That said, it’s really stupid to hire people without vetting them in this day and age because people have become so insane and brainless that you have no clue what they might say when they get up on stage; but 10 years ago I could see you being able to get away with not vetting celebrities. As such, the person/people who approved him might have been +10 years out of touch and/or lazy.
Trust me when I say that since this was in Saskatchewan, it’s likely nobody checked because it never even crossed their minds that they should.
Truth, Saskatchewan tends to echo a lot of the transphobic legislation of the States. They passed a law requiring parents to give consent to use requested pronouns in schools. The place isn’t what one would call “trans issue forward”. I could totally see some ass backwards planning committee thinking it would be great before belatedly remembering the sort of people who attend these sorts of charity events actually tend to be fairly empathetic to their fellow humans…
Honestly I think it’s just because people are mean and want someone to bully and trans people aren’t quite as protected by society as other marginalized groups yet so they’re the easiest target. Plus probably from some people it’s fear that if other people are allowed to be who they are then they themselves might realize they aren’t the perfect little cis straight christian they want to be seen as.
My first thought in situations like this is that maybe he secretly wishes he were a she. It’s true just often enough that I think it’s worth considering as an option.
And honestly, I don’t care if it’s true or not. If, whenever a public figure publicly tries to humiliate or demonize some minority group, public discourse immediately starts talking about whether said public figure secretly is, or wants to be, a member of said minority group, then it serves as a deterrent for others wanting to humiliate or demonize minority groups.
A) You’re in the closet and don’t want people to know? Then don’t ridicule people who came out of the closet.
B) Oh, you’re not in the closet and don’t want people to think you are? What a coincidence. Also, don’t ridicule people who came out of the closet.
While what you’re saying comes from the right place, it can also be dangerous. That attitude/idea can lead to blaming the marginalized group for their own victimhood.
I do think it’s more common for gay than trans, and sometimes has a grain of truth. But much of the time people are just assholes looking for someone to bully and hate.
I can understand if older people are confused by trans issues. That seems fair. I mean, just a few decades ago, people hardly even mentioned them unless they were making a joke.
When it comes to hate, though, I’m with you. At the end of the day, these are still PEOPLE we’re talking about. If they’re doing something you don’t approve of, then just don’t do it yourself. It doesn’t get any easier than that. No hatred required.
Seriously. Like, okay, you think that the whole transgender thing is a fad, or “attention-seeking,” or any other nonsense. Everybody is entitled to opinions, even stupid ones. I guarantee I have some stupid opinions, myself, about things that have no relevance to me.
But feeling the need to express those opinions, and feeling so strongly about it, and wanting to make legislation for it, and pretending you give two shits about girls’ and womens’ sports when 5 years ago you were talking shit about the WNBA because they were a joke to you, when you will knowingly interact with a trans person once or twice in a year, maybe, in your little podunk town, and since you are talking to them you won’t have an opportunity to use a pronoun for them… well there’s obviously something else at work here.
It makes it clear it’s just an excuse to hate, because trans people don’t affect them in the slightest.
It’s funny. Every time I see someone going on a rant about trans women in women’s sports, I ask them when they started watching women’s sports. I don’t get a response, but I do get a bunch of downvotes. Even on Lemmy.
The people complaining about trans in women’s sports don’t watch women’s sports for the sports.
It’s a wedge issue. That’s all that matters to them.
First, they don’t give a fuck about those people.
Second, intentional vagueness that can be weaponized. Be as heinous as humanly possible to keep the base talking about it.
Third, exaggerate issues that moderates care about like bathrooms, sports, and regretted transitions.
Fourth, ideally for them, the left will talk about all the heinous shit and not address the actual discussions.
and not address the actual discussions.
Sorry, you lost me. What actual discussions are being ignored?
Anti-vaxx jokes at a hospital fundraiser. That’s one of the stupider moves I’ve seen today.
Rob Schneider. The SNL guy that had one character, then moved on to being remembered as “The Stapler” on South Park.
What an inspiration.
Edit. Now that I think about it, Schneider is actually being a true comedian through and through here. The golden rule is to always punch up, and Schneider is attempting to do just that.
I mean, by many measures Alex Jones is more accomplished than me, but I’m very happy to be where I am instead of being Alex Jones.
I got blocked by him on Twitter (in 2012!) for mocking his whackjob antivax views. He was espousing shit headed antivax nonsense long before it was fashionable.
Antivax goes back at least a decade before your 2012 blocking. My kid was born in 2001 and the whole vaccines cause autism thing was already big. In fact, I’d suggest it was nearly mainstream at the time.
When the study that suggested the correlation with autism got thoroughly debunked, nay, proven willfully fraudulent, it fizzled out a little bit, but has still stuck around like a raging case of herpes to this day.
