Remember this shit when the trump trolls post their anti-vote bullshit. This is what will happen if they get their way.
You do realize Trump was already president, right? And that our current president is literally funding a genocide?
The fear mongering doesn’t work. Field better candidates that can actually win elections against convicted felons and you don’t run into this issue.
Candidate so unpopular they’re neck and neck with literally the worst president in the countries history.
Candidate’s diehard supporters when their guy loses: “surely this isn’t my candidates fault for alienating the bulk of his base while supporting a far-right fascist genocide. This must be the fault of the Democratic base!”
Give me a break. Neolibs only have themselves to blame if Biden can’t win against the single most beatable opponent in history.
Fear and threats don’t work anymore, you guys have got to actually allow non-conservative candidates out there or Dems will just keep losing. Most of the Democratic base is not going to vote for a Reagan Republican in Dem clothing.
It actually is really simple, you’re right. Don’t fund genocide and you get my vote.
That’s literally all it takes at this point. I’ve been defeated on ever seeing functional healthcare and campaign finance reform and stuff. You guys won in that regard, its not gonna happen, you should be happy. All I’m saying is I can’t vote for a pro-genocide candidate, you know?
You’ve dragged me along to the right with you so far that that’s now my standard.
I’m gonna blow your mind here; I voted for Biden in 2020. Despite utterly despising neolibs and their coercive right-wing politics. I did what you demanded, voted for the lesser evil (once again) and got a genocide for it.
Do you realize that if Trump becomes president again, his people have made absolutely no secret about their plans for seriously ramping up the ongoing trans genocide?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_genocide#United_States
And now it’s your time to either downplay and/or deny that genocide or pretend it isn’t happening or that Trump won’t make it worse. Anything but actually admit there’s at least one kind of people whose genocide won’t bother you.
But please, do surprise me on this front.
Americans do need to experience the reality of where neoliberal politics have brought us before they can be made willing to resist it.
You’ve got to understand, trans people are losing their rights right now already, they’ve been a struggling class of people for decades, the neolib public does not actually care. Sure, they’ll tokenize trans people and their struggles as a political cudgel, but in the end this election is about protecting the comfort of upper middle-class neoliberals, that’s why they demand people vote for a conservative – they themselves don’t want to experience the consequences of their lackluster politics, that’s for minorities, not for “normal Democrats”.
There’s no more kicking the fan down the road, no more “lesser of two evils”, you guys are going to need to admit what it takes to win elections or you get to go down with all the groups you’re standing on to keep your own head above water.
No. But the fact that Joe Biden’s big selling point here is “I’ll theoretically fund genocide less than Trump” is not really a compelling distinction.
You’ve got to take a step back and look at what you’re supporting to really understand why Biden is struggling. Compare Biden’s position on Israel to, say, Ronald Reagan’s. Really kind of puts it into perspective that you’ve quite literally been made into a Republican in all but name. All using the same fear tactics every election cycle.
Well, we’ve reached the bottom of thr hill doing it your way, Democrats are literally paying to kill children now, how much further down were you guys saying we need to go before your magical “long term progress” kicks in?
You do realize that former president Trump was such a strong ally of Israel (since he let his zionist son-in-law run it) that they named a new settlement on stolen land after him, right? And that he’s never shown the least bit of interest in helping the Palestinians, right? And that his mid-east peace plan was normalization of relations between other Middle East states and Israel, right? Do you think Trump is going to take a stand against Israel if he gets elected? Honestly, what do you expect for him to do to the Palestinians? Send better bombs to kill them with? Stop pressuring Israel for a ceasefire or aid deliveries so that more Palestinians die from war or starvation? Please do share how you think Trump will end the genocide.
The problem with this argument is this very article, which is also backed up by interviews with John Kelly, Bill Barr, and others. Everyone verifies that that Trump wanted to do all the crazy stuff from prosecuting Hillary to executing former members of his administration for speaking out against him, but they’d just delay until he’d get distracted and move on to something else. Again, these are people who eagerly signed up to work for Trump, and changed their mind based on their experience with him.
This next time around though, Trump will try to hire people who are more likely to be yes-men. What happens then?
There’s no “exposing”, I’ve been pretty clear that my goal here is subverting the Democratic right-wing, that shouldn’t shock anyone.
Like, why are you acting like that’s some huge reveal? Yes, I’m anti-genocide, go ahead and label me, though I think your reliance on labels is kind of what got us all into this mess to begin with. It’s why you’re a Republican in any practical sense of the word.
Of course he did. He’s just the typical caveman Republican. Their answer to anything they don’t like or don’t want to deal with us to kill it. Like whatsername shooting the inconvenient dog that she couldn’t be bothered to train or find a home for. Repeat shoplifter in jail for the 5th time? Just execute them, waste of jail space. Country full of brown people of a religion they don’t like? Just nuke it. Migrants crossing your property trying to get to the US out of Mexico? Just shoot ‘em. People whose politics they disagree with and find annoying? Shoot them too.
He wanted to nuke a hurricane. When all you have is a hammer, everything is a nail.
For all the analyses out there attempting to explain conservatism, that really seems to strike the nail squarely on the head.
Of course he did. He’s just the typical caveman Republican
More like a typical narcissist. Daddies money enabled him to indulge it to the point he is now completely insane.
I think the narcissism is a compounding issue, not the driving one. I’ve talked with many Republicans and far, far too many of them see harsh punishment as the answer to everything, and of course the ones that want to expend the least effort thinking about some issue or dealing with people like protesters or BLM just say that they should be shot, run over, etc…
It’s beyond narcissism. It’s closer to psychopathy, those that agree and help further that agenda are sociopaths. The lock-step voters? A blend of spectrum B personality disorders. Rittenhouse, likely sociopath. Average run of the mill y’all queda? Somewhere between narcissist and sociopath.
The obviously intentional premeditated extrajudicial killing of Michael Reinoehl is another one, and a scary precedent.
Not very stunning tbh.
If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier… as long as I’m the dictator. Hehehe.
- George W. Bush
“Stunning”? How? This is the least “stunning” thing I’ve heard. Trump is a piece of shit. This 100% checks out.
You know, at a certain point, if he doesn’t shut up, it crossed the line into justification for his assassination.
I don’t know where that line is, and quite honestly, I hope we don’t have to find out because the last thing we need is that guy as a martyr.
But I really hope he shuts the fuck up.
Trump committed treason on national TV when he asked Russia to help him get elected in 2016…and they did the next day.
We’re way past that point.
I’m an eloquent motherfucker, but I don’t have sufficient words to express my contempt for Trump. I still don’t think I could ever consider assassinating him to be justified.
My question is, isn’t this conspiracy to commit murder?
I’m an eloquent motherfucker, but I don’t have sufficient words to express my contempt for Trump.
words aren’t the only form of communication. Punching him in the face would certainly be adequate… and therefore must certainly be protected speech.
My question is, isn’t this conspiracy to commit murder?
No? at best it’s raising a legal question. In very extreme cases, self defense can be premeditated. abused women who can’t reasonably escape the abusers, for example. The question is, at what point does a political candidate making threats to execute and murder his political opponents cross the line into that extreme scenario?
It’s not like I’m actively plotting his assassination, and neither are you. Conspiracy is far more deliberate, it involves specific actions. It’s an uncomfortable conversation to have, sure, but it’s probably one somebody who can muzzle Trump should be having with him.
Like, the plot to kidnap Whitmer, that was a conspiracy. This? nope.
Also, just for the record, that line is probably somewhere around the same time civil war becomes imminent.
