Kyle Rittenhouse’s sister Faith is seeking $3,000 on a crowdfunding website in a bid to prevent the eviction of herself and her mother Wendy from their home, citing her “brother’s unwillingness to provide or contribute to our family.”

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Huh. Have any of them considered a job? If the mom was capable of driving her child to another state to murder some people, I bet she could drive for uber or something. Or be a getaway driver for other criminals, idk.

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There’s a certain type of person who thinks work is beneath them. That’s who the Rittenhouse family is.

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…what? What are you basing this on?

When the children were small, Wendy and Mike worked various jobs, including machine operator, housekeeper, and cashier.

Wendy had become a certified nursing assistant, but she continued to struggle financially. The family was repeatedly evicted.

In 2018, shortly after another eviction, Wendy filed for bankruptcy. She developed a gastrointestinal bleed that required hospitalization, and Faith was also hospitalized, after an attempted overdose involving over-the-counter painkillers

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/05/kyle-rittenhouse-american-vigilante

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91 points

Gotta love a conservative family that votes to undermine all the social services they’d need in situations like this. But they seem to be able to afford guns…

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A CNA does not earn money, it’s pretty much a minimum wage job. This person did not have the necessary intelligence or drive to attain their bachelors and become a full nurse–it’s as simple as that.

My sister in law, bless her, is really one of the angriest persons you will ever meet. She hates everything out there and the world is bad, blah blah blah. I asked her why she became a phlebotomist. She told me she wanted to be a nurse but could not pass English 101. Seriously.

Kyle’s mom? She’s the same.

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According to the article his sister has been hospitalized and both her and their mother have a hard time getting work because of being associated with Kyle Rittenhouse. BTW the mother did not drive him that’s a fallacy

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Ok then I retract the part about driving. But I have a hard time feeling sympathy for her being unable to get a job. She’s repeatedly defended him and said she stands by him, and she allowed her 17 year old to buy a gun he couldn’t legally have and to drive without a license. Being associated with him is her doing. I have a family member who was a teenage white supremacist piece of shit (who was thankfully stopped by the FBI before he killed anyone), and you can bet nobody thinks I’m associated with him because I make it very clear where I stand. If I said he was a good person and I’ll always support him, I wouldn’t be shocked if employers said nah.

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Sure, but she’s also his mother, not a random family member. I’m not going to fault a mother for standing by their child, no matter what he did.

She didn’t let him buy anything, but she couldn’t make him get rid of it because it wasn’t in her house. It was locked up at a friend’s house in a different town.

She was also ill, poor, dyslexic, and a single parent dealing with a difficult child. She doesn’t seem to have much in her life but her children, I’m not going to condemn her for not banishing him from her life. It’s not an easy thing for a mother to do.

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16 points

Yeah absolutely fuck Kyle Rittenhouse but Kyle lied to his mom that night about what he was up to, and the mom clearly had no intention of being a willing accomplice to murder.

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12 points

Nah but she was totally down for taking him drinking with the Proud Boys.

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Parents are responsible for the actions of their children. She’s the reason he owned the gun.

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5 points

Fallacy is a fault in logic, not a falsehood.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc (after it therefore because of it) is a fallacy. Or an appeal to authority is a fallacy.

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fallacy

a false or mistaken idea

You’re thinking specifically of logical fallacies.

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25 points

Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought Kyle lied to her about everything he was doing that night.

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28 points

He did. The gun was never in her home, she couldn’t do anything about it. It was locked up at his friend’s house because his mother wouldn’t have permitted him to have it.

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6 points

Yeah, but she’s related to him and loves him because he is her son, and we hate him, so obviously she should suffer too. Justice and empathy? Fuck that. We’re outraged and out for some suffering.

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8 points

You are spreading misinformation: https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-255510715179

The spreading of that, along with medical issues, is why they are having troubles.

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7 points

Did you read the rest of the thread? I already acknowledged that I was wrong about that part, but they’re saying they can’t get work because of him while still refusing to condemn him. The GoFundMe says he was “involved in a tragic shooting incident,” which is a pretty weasely way to say he killed people.

I also question that it really has anything to do with him. He’s certainly not having any issues making money, and there are a concerning number of people who consider him a hero, or at the very least aren’t bothered by what he did (see the comments on this post for a whole lot of evidence). Surely some of them are hiring.

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So, here’s the thing.

He shouldn’t have gone there. Being there, being armed, there to protect property, was taken to be provocative by the people that were protesting cops shooting an unarmed man.

But the narrative that we got in the news wasn’t how things actually went down. The first person confronted him and tried to grab his rifle when he wasn’t threatening anyone. The second person that was shot had just chased Rittenhouse down and struck him with a skateboard. The third person was pointing a pistol at Rittenhouse when he was shot in the arm. Source.

Given that he was not directly threatening anyone there, it was a clear-cut case of self-defense. Yeah, I don’t like it that a shitty person walks away, but he walked because he wasn’t guilty of a crime in defending himself. Is he still a right-wing shitstain that’s supposedly too dumb to get into the military? Yeah. But self-defense is a right for everyone.

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If Kyle has money (he does, from dumbass rubes), he should help his family. Fuck this shitty little selfish murderer.

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She didn’t drive him there. It’s been factually proven. Dudes a fucking murderer for sure, but his mom didn’t drive him to kill people. He did that shit on his own.

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If the mom was capable of driving her child to another state

She didn’t do that.

It’s really sad how many people are still so completely ignorant of even the simplest facts of that case. Whatever your ideology declared was the truth, you just swallowed, facts and truth be damned.

Pitiful.

P.S. Self-defense isn’t murder.

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P.S. Self-defense isn’t murder.

What Kyle did wasn’t self defense. I don’t give a damn what the court said, he went looking for trouble with a gun in his hand.

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If a black guy knowingly strolled through a KKK meeting, without saying or doing anything other than walking, and defended himself if one of them attacked him, would you argue he gave up the right to defend himself?

That’s not how it works, goofball.

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19 points

Putting yourself in harms way hardly justifies “self defense”.

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If a black guy knowingly strolled through a KKK meeting, without saying or doing anything other than walking, and defended himself if one of them attacked him, would you argue he gave up the right to defend himself?

That’s not how it works, goofball.

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9 points

It’s amazing how you can convince some people that you aren’t responsible for your actions when you totally were.

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He showed up to a riot with a gun, he knew what was going to happen. He put himself in a situation where deadly force would just be on be on the line of justifed.

Duty to retreat includes duty to not show up. It says so much that had the people he murdered not died and instead killed him they would be able to use the same defense he did. We are creating a last man standing justice system.

A provokes B. They fight. B is murdered. A claims self-defense

provokes B. They fight. A is murdered. B claims self-defense

What does it say that the argument works both ways? No other crime operates this way.

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It says so much that had the people he murdered not died and instead killed him they would be able to use the same defense he did.

LMAO no they wouldn’t! They chased Rittenhouse down as he fled! No jury on Earth would consider what they did self-defense, you’re completely out of your mind.

He showed up to a riot with a gun, he knew what was going to happen.

‘She was walking around with a skimpy outfit, she knew what was going to happen.’

Victim blaming. Wisconsin is an open carry state.

What does it say that the argument works both ways?

Loaded question; it DOESN’T work both ways, especially not when there is only one aggressor.

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216 points

Is it possible that maybe he’s a piece of shit?

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I mean, maybe? But other than wild speculation, is there any evidence?

Fucking /s because those of you that don’t get it are dumb enough to think The Boys got all anti-you all of a sudden too.

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Dude, you absolutely need the /s on this one. There are people who authentically say this. And they read your comment thinking you and the upvoters all support that same belief too

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Personally I can’t believe he’s crying about 4 downvotes. lol

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No evidence whatsoever. None.

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But other than wild speculation, is there any evidence?

He did drive up to Ohio to shoot people.

those of you that don’t get it are dumb

I wish I didn’t know people who would say that shit entirely unironically.

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Not defending him, but it was Wisconsin, in a city less than 30 minutes from where he lived, barely across state lines.

This case is fucked in so many ways, and it’s even worse because nobody remembers any of the details right.

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lmao you don’t even have the state right.

He went there to shoot people

Yeah, that’s why he showed up and did zero non-benevolent things for hours, and then when a maniac literally screamed a death threat at him (in response to Rittenhouse putting out a dumpster fire he started), his immediate reaction was to run away.

Literally the only people shot by Rittenhouse that day were people who tried to kill him, and then DIDN’T LET HIM run away when he tried to flee, which was his consistent first reaction to all aggression directed at him. Everyone who got shot CHASED him when he fled, cornered him, and then tried to murder him, forcing him to use his weapon to save his own life.

Those are the facts.

I’m glad I don’t know anyone dumb enough to unironically claim he intended to shoot people. There is so much publicly available evidence, it’s frankly secondhand embarrassing to see, even online.

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Only alternative facts

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No no, see he shot a registered sex offender (which he couldn’t have possibly known at the time)!

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And even if he did know it, vigilante justice is not a route society should go down.

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Well you see, that guy was trying to kill him

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Or was he trying to keep the kid pointing the rifle at the peaceful protesters from shooting them?

The problem is, we will never know now.

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“That guy” being Rittenhouse who specifically went there with a firearm with the intention to stir up shit? He was absolutely hoping he’d get to murder someone, and surprise surpise – he did exactly that

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But he wasn’t.

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I think you might be onto something there.

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179 points

Conservative values at work. Make a boatload of cash doing the grift circuit after murdering somebody, then hoard it and refuse to help your family.

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He didn’t even make much cash, lol. After the initial attention everything dried up and now he’s got a hard time getting normal jobs, lol

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40 points

gotta be honest, i wouldn’t hire him

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Just because of the whole murder thing? It was legal!

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Yeah, you might accidentally bump into him in the hallway and he would stand his ground and gun you down for the audacity.

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I will not hire anyone who so much as smells conservative.

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Yeah, I feel bad for his mom and sister struggling but he clearly fucked around and now he is finding out.

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Kyle Rittenhouse’s sister Faith is seeking $3,000 on a crowdfunding website in a bid to prevent the eviction of herself and her mother Wendy from their home, citing her “brother’s unwillingness to provide or contribute to our family.”

The piece of shit is being a total piece of shit? shocked pikachu

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While shitty, what does him helping them financially have to do with anything? He shouldn’t be responsible for them. There are many people in the US in worse situations, and they don’t get special treatment because, I guess, they aren’t family with a famous murderer.

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well yeah, but like, if you get free money from people for shooting some guy at a protest, the least you could do is share some of that money with your family.

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35 points

What makes you think this bastard comprehends the concept of empathy?

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21 points

Share it wider: “it takes a village to raise a vigilante” or at least to look the other way.

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I’m imagining the family from Million Dollar Baby walking in from Disney World going “What do you mean you ain’t got any more of that shootin’ people money??”

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Most of us struggle month to month, most of us dont attempt to leech blood money to unburden our struggle. Most of us don’t run to the media to cry about how our murderthing fascist familial connection isn’t letting us leech their blood money.

If I was Kyle Rittenhouse, I wouldn’t give a single dime to the people who created Kyle Rittenhouse. They created an unlovable twerp, they shouldn’t profit from that.

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In this case (according to the donation page), he is part of the reason they are in this mess, as his mom is unable to find employment since everyone thinks she drove him to the protest where he shot those people.

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Although that sucks, I can’t blame people for naturally putting some fault on her even for the wrong reasons.

I don’t think she should struggle but she did raise him. The punishment doesn’t fit the crime but imo parents should take responsibility of raising shitty kids.

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Sounds like the town knows something we don’t or are they just punking this woman on a trust me bro.

Funny how society will act like this here but then we have Cathlic pedos living in the community and nothing happens.

People as a community have some weird sense of morals

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Most people who aren’t conservative psychopaths actually like their families and want to help them when they can.

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they’re trying to get libs who hate kyle to help

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Agreed.

We know that we are not the only family struggling to rebuild after that fateful night

And look at the struggles his sister is going through. Profound tone-deafness is a real wipepo problem, a syndrome second only to affluenza in terms of collateral damage and suffering.

She needs help! Hit up your friends; especially the strong ones who like pizza and beer. Dig deep for those truck keys and clear the calendars for next weekend so you can help … move.

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It’s his mom, Jesus dude.

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Yeah, and we shouldn’t pity them because they have an asshole son. Sure, it’d be the right thing for him to do if he were a good person, but him not taking financial responsibility for them doesn’t mean anyone else should be either. I’d much rather them help someone else.

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Kyle Rittenhouse learning that his family is struggling.

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That’s actually him learning that one of the people he shot at survived. Just a reminder, this shithead crossed state lines to dump gas on the fire of a protest and riot caused by disgusting, racially motivated circumstances.

He wanted to kill some people that night, so he brought a big gun. His success resulted in a lot of free money from the folks that want everyone else struggling to survive without violating a ten commandment to go hungry.

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Just a reminder, this shithead crossed state lines to dump gas on the fire of a protest

The “crossed state lines” thing really irks me because does nobody know that maps exist? I’m thinking about crossing state lines today because I need to get more baby wipes. Shithead went to the next town over, which just so happened to be in a different state.

But let’s also not forget he went and partied with KKK members immediately after posting his crowdfunded bail, just in case there’s any questions on how much of a shithead he is

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The straw purchase of the murder weapon the judge shrugged and tossed on a whim is something that can land you in jail for 10 years.

There was a parallel case to Rittenhouse: Andrew Coffee IV. He was acquitted in his case but the charge of his weapon possession is what got him 10 years.

But Rittenhouse’s judge figured hey, NBD, and everybody clapped.

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I’ve lived in the edge of a state before. It’s really hard to miss what side of the populated area is one state or another, and the fact that there are laws about crossing. I knew if I went shooting in CA I needed to keep my ammunition and firearm in seperate compartments, unloaded, and that I couldn’t have friends buy me a gun to take across if I couldn’t legally buy it myself. And I was just shooting clay pigeons, not my racially hated neighbors.

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you think they don’t covet their neighbors wives, take the lord’s name in vain, worship false idols/put other gods before “him” and don’t steal?

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