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I’d prefer the cryptkeeper surgeon who is at least trying, as opposed to the orange ghoul who is there to harvest your organs for some spare change.

The problem lies with the hospital which allowed those to be the only options to begin with.

I for one would prefer to have my appendix removed by a competent surgeon just over 35 y.o., but until hospital staff management gets their shit together, there isn’t a whole lot one can do.

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this all the way. I have very vocally stated there needs to be an age ceiling on positions, there is age floors, there is zero reasons not to have an age ceiling.

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My current job has an age ceiling of 70 years, and I have very limited authority when it comes to deployment of nuclear tech.

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100 points

Voting Biden. Fuck all these takes. I’ll never vote R again and I’ll always vote. You old bastards die mad at the world.

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Many of these folks are still going to hold their nose and vote for Biden. A lot of these takes are valid criticisms without necessarily meaning they aren’t voting for him. Hating every candidate and voting for one anyway is a long standing tradition here in Canada.

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THEN OFFER A SOLUTION. GIVE AN ALTERNATIVE.

FFS I am so tired of this. It’s a critique with no idea what to do instead.

Here are the 4 options

  • Vote Trump

  • Vote Biden

  • Vote 3rd party/independent/write-in

  • Don’t vote

What do any of these critiques do to change this? Are they saying to not vote Biden and do one of the alternative 3 options? What’s the end goal here?

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THEN OFFER A SOLUTION. GIVE AN ALTERNATIVE.

Replace him at the Convention. The Party’s donors are fucking panicking right now lol

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If anything, the person you’re responding to is advocating for voting for Biden. (They stated they live in Canada, so I’d imagine they won’t be voting for Biden themselves.)

Are you misunderstanding, responding to folks who are planning not to vote for Biden (who aren’t even mentioned in the post you’re responding to), or arguing it’s not ok to voice criticisms of Biden at all (regardless of whether one plans to vote for him or not)?

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8 points

Again, your narrative is dependent on this false premise you’ve set up that Biden “has” to be the nominee.

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AOC… There now you have an alternative. No one can prevent Dems from losing but Biden. He has to step aside. Otherwise Trump is going to get elected.

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I’m voting Biden, but I still hate both him and Trump, and I hate that he’s refusing to drop out even though every D voter in the country is begging him to drop out.

The only reason I’m voting for him is because I want to stave off fascism for another 4 years.

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1 point

I treat an R like 7-up: never have, never will.

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For those too young to remember the commercial:

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71 points

If my choice was between that and the doctor who said “I’ve got this handgun, it’s the best handgun, nobody kills more patients than me”…

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Dr. Trump: “To be completely honest with you, I’m really lucky to have this operation. The board was about to submit judgement with serious repercussions to my personal life, but I managed to get in here just in time to dodge all responsibility. Anyways, I don’t actually believe in medicine so I’m gonna let my Office of Management and Budget handle the situation from here.”

Russ Vought: “First of all, every nurse is fired. The Anesthesiologist, too.”

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That’s not the point at hand though. You are just making yourself feel better about the shitty candidate that can probably lose anyways because you will have felt safe in your heart that yours was less terrible.

Pathetic, apathetic, and lazy.

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58 points

At this point i feels like it’s all republican trying to do a psyop telling people not to vote.

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Why can’t we just express our disgust with the situation we’re in without being called a psyop? I’m going to vote for Biden. I’m still pissed that this is where we’re at. People were saying he was too old in the primaries before the last election and the Dems still shoved him down our throats and they’re going to do it again. It’s fucking bullshit. At the very least we need a candidate that’s young enough that they’re going to have to live with the consequences of their decsisions

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It doesn’t matter if you literally preface every comment you make with “I AM VOTING BLUE NO MATTER WHO” with these people, every criticism is a psyop to get people to not vote.

You’d think having a candidate that polls like shit would be what makes people not vote for him. But no, it’s actually the fault of the people pointing out he is a bad candidate and that perhaps we should run someone who doesn’t repeatedly shout that “we beat Medicare” in the middle of a fucking debate.

The Democratic establishment fucking loves Trump, the specter of him is a permanent fundraiser and no matter who they trot out or how weak a candidate they are they don’t have to change anything, because the alternative is literally fascism.

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5 points

These are people that blame the fire alarm going off for starting the fire.

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I’m going to vote for Biden.

Then save the issues until we’re sure we still have democracy.

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20 points

No, you motherfuckers have been telling me to keep my opinions to myself since the last election and I’m sick of it. If he can’t get enough votes to win that’s on the Dems for running him in the first place. Fuck you and fuck them. It’s long past time to stop blaming the fucking republicans for the mess we’re in and actually push back. Maybe if he actually used that power the supreme court just handed him my opinion would change but he’s already admitted he’s too much of a pussy to do anything with it.

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It’s gone. You ain’t had that in years. The reichstag already happened, yall just catching on 20 years late cause the mask is now longer necessary.

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Damn. I thought cultish thought-stopping was something we didn’t really have very far left of (what the U.S. calls) center. Would you like to see Democrats comparing Biden to Jesus like the MAGA crowd does Trump? The day the Democratic party becomes just as much of a cult as the Republican party is the day we have two literally fascist parties to choose between rather than a fascist party and still-a-major-win-for-the-fascists-but-at-least-not-quite-as-bad party.

Unless something completely unexpected (like a third party candidate actually having a chance of winning) happens between now and November, I’m voting blue no matter who in the general election. I think everyone else in the U.S. should as well, and I’ll tell them that. But nobody is served by liberals (and lefties) deluding themselves into thinking our choice is between anything other than two unequal evils.

What’s your reasoning here? Are you hoping that if you and I lie and say Biden’s going to fix everything, it’ll get more people to vote blue than if we tell them to vote for the lesser evil (which, to be clear, is the candidate with the D next to their name)? Because I really think the case could be made that the opposite is true. Or do you really think Biden is a perfect, infallable candidate?

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Or maybe we are just panicking at the person we can literally tell is unliked by other voters when even the people who will begrudgingly hold our nose at the vote are starting to get disgusted by the smell.

Seriously how hard is it to to not pretend people aren’t struggling swallowing it down and the people ringing alarm bells are just that and not some special person trying to influence others but just don’t want to hit the iceberg because it seemed like it would cost less fuel to just try ramming it and hoping we get lucky.

Fuck me. This is gonna be one of those parts of textbooks where it says infighting led to the party not moving fast enough to face the threat and whichever side makes it out the other side scapegoats the other as being the reason it got so bad.

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5 points

Correct.

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3 points

Always has been.

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Conservatism is the minority in America, and rarely wins through above average voter turnout, which is why they do everything in their power to gerrymander and disenfranchise voters. That doesn’t change the following facts:

  1. The “resign” efforts are a campaign spearheaded by the fascist propaganda machine (because they have no platform beyond fascist dictatorship).

  2. Anyone and anything, from a dementia ward patient to a wet sack of shit, is more qualified and deserving than every 21st C Republican.

  3. Biden is in noticeable cognitive decline, his debate performance was ridiculous, he probably will not live another 4 years, and isn’t there because he’s the best choice.

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Has been that for months.

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Republican Kremlin. Pretty fucked that Lemmy swallows it hook, line, and sinker.

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Always has been.

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But also the snowflakes that avoid tarnishing their pure souls by avoiding difficult choices altogether. They don’t care if america falls to facism, as long as they can brag about being morally better than you.

Thankfully, normal people still outnumber them.

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They need to vote, however.

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Oh yes, I’m never going to discourage voting, because that’s dumb and only benefits one side.

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Yeah, its sad. They’ll abstain because of righteous indignation, then act horrified when their lack of action has consequences.

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Depends… is your other option not a doctor at all, and he hates you, and has openly stated that he hopes you die in the procedure? Those are you current two choices, America. Go with the sleepy one.

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It also completely ignores the fact that the sleepy doctor has had a nearly perfect record at the operation. It’s only the other guy that poses any threat.

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The guy that helped set up for profit prisons, and made it so youth would be fucked over by non forgiveable loans, and helped setup tax evasion for massive corporations, and actually helped create the framework for dismantling roe v wade saying it went to far, and supported the Iraq war, and supports imperialism, and now can barely talk or respond coherently… Has “a nearly perfect record” ???

Sure.

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As far as centrists are concerned, that’s a stellar record.

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It’s not “either Biden or Trump”, just have the Democrats present Kamala or Buttigieg or whoever. Polls already point as alternatives to Biden as more likely to beat Trump, and chances are that Biden keeps screwing it up during the following months.

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Hey, of the DNC pulls the trigger and runs Kamala or Bootygreg or some other younger Dem…well, I am voting AGAINST P2025, so I don’t care…but I am not voting third party and spoiling the vote because “old man old”…his crew is competent and doing good things. Shitz have him take Kami or Bootyjudge as VP and just bow out after the race…again don’t care.

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I’m not saying “Don’t vote Democrat if their candidate is Biden”, I’m saying “there’s a fuckton of low-information voters who are unlikely to vote for a guy who clearly displays Biden’s health issues”.

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STFU. You are either an idiot or a Trumper.

The time to talk about alternative leadership was two years ago.

This argument clearly only helps the MAGA movement right now. Which means you are either a total fucking idiot, or a fascist pretending to be a Democrat. (I guess you are a fucking idiot either way).

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What’s the point of private American Health Care if I can’t choose my doctor?

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18 points

Making corporations money, duh.

It’s not like you can pick your doctor either, have to be in network, etc, etc, unless you’re rich enough to afford possibly millions in medical bills

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5 points

Not mentioning with how hospitals are run now there IS only one doctor per specialty covering 3 county hospitals.

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