110 points

I mean, it’s not very cool if the good people living here have to suffer for it. Wishing for collapse isn’t progressive or leftist - it’s just defeatist.

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16 points

Wishing for the collapse of the current system is very leftist. In fact, you objectively can’t be considered leftist if you support anything about the imperialist, colonialist, capitalist US system. There are zero redeeming features about our nation. It should die.

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69 points

I’d prefer gradual reform over collapse. Less shocking to our culture/economy that way I think.

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15 points

Yeah well gradual reform is right-wing liberal propaganda that makes marginalized groups suffer even more for our own privilege. It doesn’t work.

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18 points

Wishing for the collapse of the current system is very leftist

And see the imperialist, colonialist, capitalist China and Russia rise to wreck the world as they see fit just like how USA do? How very leftist of you.

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8 points

How is it different when the USA does it?

A true anti-fascist opposes the acts, not the nation.

Nationalism is fascism.

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A leftist US citizen has no control over the Chinese or Russian government. Excusing your own country’s crimes because other countries do it as well is a wild stance and a disingenuous attempt to distract people from taking action. You are responsible for your own government.

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5 points

Collapse is a survivor fantasy.

to imagine collapse will occur and “your brand” whatever that is, will follow is the same reason of thought as lone wolf preppers dreaming of zombies. They think they will survive and thrive, if only they could be rid of the troublesome status quo.

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I mean, its the west that has made the social advances in lgbtq rights, Russia’s not going to give a shit that you cheered on the collapse of the United States if you arent being used as cannon fodder or pumping out babys and keeping your mouth shut

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Worked out great for the KPD in 1930s Germany…

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8 points

“Wishing for the collapse of the current system is very leftist.” - 16 upvotes, 0 downvotes.

And y’all wonder why people don’t take the left seriously.

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7 points

“The reason people support genocide, fascism, and capitalism is because of posts on 196” -You

The right was never going to support anti-fascism regardless of what the left does or says.

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3 points

Lemmy’s gonna lemmy

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Hi friend, you seem to be* confused. Blahaj has downvotes disabled, so the count is almost always going to be zero. The only downvotes you may potentially see come from your own server.

I know in this case you might be upset that this person has 0 downvotes, but the reason Blahaj has them disabled is because bigots often use them to shutdown, and try and hide, trans people’s comments and posts. Even when they are not saying anything controversial.

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Yeah. And asinine.

“Millions of people will suffer because capitalists! uwu ✌️✌️🌈⭐️🤣🤣🤣🤣”

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13 points

And op is saying some shit about just giving governing to natives, but those would be the first people to suffer hard in a collapse. They just want people to hurt.

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1 point

Recommend watching Civil War

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Accelerationism is a bigoted ideology that seeks to pit the minority against the majority during a state of economic and political collapse. It looks okay in a vacuum and on paper, but the reality is that in the event of widespread instability sociopaths would almost certainly seek power by convincing the majority population that it’s minorities are the root of all their problems. You now have a second Holocaust on your hands.

Furthermore, I’m almost certain that it is spread by Nazis seeking to harness the left’s hatred of the West in order to achieve their goal of “cleansing the white race” because I’ve observed that accelerationism is extremely popular with Nazis. They believe that a collapse will allow them to exterminate anyone they believe to be degenerate or inferior without being impeded. The extreme left, like always, is getting suckered into believing in a post-crash utopia and is helping them spread their disgusting ideology.

Sir, you are almost certainly a Nazi or a Nazi’s unwitting cockholster. That makes me extremely disappointed because I know you didn’t used to be like this.

You wanna make a real change? That means you have to actually get out from behind your PC and start targeting common “issues”. You have to tackle the “problems” that the US is facing head-on. None of this cowardly, keyboard-warrior bullshit where you simp for some kind of fake, Nazi-inspired utopia and hope that something better will replace the US when the US collapses (spoilers: it’ll only get worse). You have to actually take matters into your own hands.

You won’t though, because you don’t actually care, you just want to watch the world burn. You’ve drunk your flavor aid and now you’re dying and can’t see straight. Your mind has been poisoned to the point where you can’t see the harm that your rhetoric threatens or who your rhetoric actually serves. As such, I’m not interested in arguing with you because I know you’ve convinced yourself that you’re right and as such, nothing I can say will convince you otherwise. I’m more concerned about others following you while believing they’re somehow doing good.

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18 points

I’m not a sir, I’m not an accelerationist, and I actually do care. Unlike these fucking self-absorbed liberals, I care about groups like Palestinians, immigrants, and the many, many demographics we exploit for our well-being. I’m sorry you libs don’t give a rat’s ass.

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2 points

You do realize that an LGBTQ+ person cheering on the collapse of western hegemony is the pinnacle of leopard eating face ideology right?

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18 points

No one believes that you actually believe any of that.

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10 points

If someone can’t believe that anti-fascists exist, then I’m not sure what to tell you

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7 points

It’s interesting you seem to think that exploitation will… Slow down?

Lol

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The downfall of a genocidal regime would certainly help

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4 points

Gat daym I just watched a murder

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21 points
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collapse

Yeah … it almost certainly won’t. The world’s largest economy and millitary will still be unmatched, except now they’re under the control of mask-off christofascists. They’re evil, but unfortunately they’re not stupid.

Everyone in the free world will be in for a bad time to varying degrees. I can promise you the new regime won’t be isolationists.

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2 points

“We’re only gonna die of our own arrogance. That’s why we might as well take our time.”

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23 points

Dolphins and rainbows? What kind of LSD has OP been taking? Yeah, America is a hypocrite, and its politicians are liars who selectively apply “justice”. American exceptionalism DOES indeed seem like a joke, and it is arguably far from the best Western or “democratic” country, but what country would OP say is the model we should all follow? OP, you obviously hate the USA. What country is the best in your opinion? I hate shit countries, but I sure as fuck would rather eat this shit over the shit I see in some countries.

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10 points

I’m anarchist, so this is a hard question to answer

All states will devolve into fascism. The USA is just a lot more egregious than most, and it’s very obvious that the world would be much better off were it to die.

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23 points

If you think a collapse (and somehow having the indigenous take control through some mysterious force of the Abrahadraba) is anarchism, then you clearly don’t know what that actually means.

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16 points

I say this not as an anarchist,but as a baseline good person: Death to the USA

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