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This morning I could hardly find a headline to confirm Israel invaded Lebanon. Everything was about how scary Iran is.

What the fucking fuckery fuck media? How is Iran’s response to Israel’s invasion more important than Israel invading? I shouldn’t have to dig for 20 minutes to confirm something like that.

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I saw plenty of headlines about the invasion of Lebanon. It just happened first, so the newer headlines would be about the thing that just happened

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These things happened hours apart. And many of the stubs behind the Iran headlines made no mention of why they would fire missiles at Israel. After today I won’t be surprised when we start getting people in here who think Iran fired for no reason and Israel hasn’t invaded Lebanon. It was an absolute failure of news media.

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I’m not defending the media by any stretch, just that both events got some coverage.

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3 points

No invasion from any media I saw.

Just an incursion

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8 points

Read better media. And it’s not like the BBC is particularly progressive on this.

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Sounds like something an antisemite would say! Why do you hate jews instead of the barbarian brown people, antisemite?

/s

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to be clear, the iran government is basically oil backed terrorism and human rights abuses. Yeah fuck iran.

I wouldn’t trust a single thing iran says.

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2 points

Quite different compared to staunch US ally Saudi Arabia.

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have i said that i would trust a single thing that saudia arabia says? Ever?

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48 points

I don’t know if things are different in the US but I haven’t seen much indifference to the bombing of Palestine. I’ve seen an awful lot of mention of children killed, etc.

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The republican party is pushing bills through the lower branch that enshrine real antisemitism through Zionism. That’s where US media and politics are at regarding the genocide.

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They’re somewhat different. Our news media doesn’t properly question our security agencies (they basically stopped doing this after 9/11), and Israel is our strongest Middle East alley, so they tend to present the Israeli narrative of the war with little or no scrutiny. That being said, given the sheer amount of destruction and death caused by the Israeli bombings, our media really can’t ignore the suffering of the Palestinians this time. They’re still far too deferential to Israel’s justification for the suffering, but they’re not ignoring.

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This depends a lot on where you are. This is a heavily partisan issue so you’ll likely find rural Republicans who haven’t seen many people IRL who have issues with the bombing of Palestine.

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8 points

Have you heard about them bombing Lebanon yesterday though, or even for the last few months? It got a passing mention and only in the context of “this might cause Iran to respond”. And there’s a few more flags on that picture.

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The beauty of not consuming any main stream media is that it can have said or not said anything you want to confirm your beliefs.

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Its different from European coverage yes, but it’s also not even remotely similar to what people like ozma keep claiming it is. The Palestine issue is being talked about CONSTANTLY, just perhaps still not with enough urgency. They then just hyperbolize it into shit like this “meme”

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Because the entire western world seemingly has to tip toe around Israel and let them get away with whatever they want because of some collective shame and empathy Europe and America still feel for something that happened before most people in Israel today were ever born…

The holocaust was bad…yeah. But the fact that that tragedy somehow gives the state of Israel an unlimited pass in perpetuity to be assholes is just wrong.

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The holocaust was used as something with which it was somehow immoral to compare other genocides in the 00s. Thus as a tool to make those more acceptable, cause no ongoing genocide can be as bad as the holocaust, or so pro-Israeli organizations say.

That was its only role.

While the David&Goliath narrative in the 70s and 80s was used to make Israel infallible in public opinion, paving the path for Israeli intelligence widely penetrating western governments and structures.

But even this wouldn’t be critical, if not for the West becoming more authoritarian gradually. Notice how the ruling structures in the West have been becoming less and less mobile, the key figures fewer and fewer, less and less transparent, and also older and older, and the concepts of right, law, constitutional law, common sense and natural right fuzzier and weaker, surrendering the reality to fallback mechanisms - as in raw power.

The less transparent a structure is, the easier it can be controlled by blackmail, personal interests and deals that the public wouldn’t want if it knew about them.

Say, about USSR in the 80s - the stereotypic picture of it being some geriatric non-transparent bureacratic warmongering state with fascist policies and degrading society, - it’s correct. The problem is - it just aged faster. The West was simply late by a couple decades. Those components of USSR’s collapse were not conditioned by totalitarian communism in any way. Just in the West late boomers are in power, while USSR was ruled by the last pre-war generation.

Israel is just one symptom.

So this can’t be solved by any conformism, arguing by the rules, proving things in courts, voting in elections. Only by bravery, strength and taking responsibility backed only by what you want and your own decision, no law, rule or vote.

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“Erm akshurally, did those civilians condemn Hummus” ☝️🤓

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“waaa the consequences of my actions!”

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