(Disclaimer: I voted against Trump and anyone who supported him in my state.)

111 points

Extremely, tarrifs will erase the middle class. All regulations will be repealed allowing even more corporate power and influence. We’re about to experience the Gilded Age on crack mixed with the burning hells of our mother Earth scorned.

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They’re done with the middle class here. They don’t want to raise the poverty level worldwide, they want to bring us down to match the rest of the world. It’s strip-mining time, we’re too expensive for the international rich’s tastes.

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36 points

Time to stock up on the automatic rifles they want us all to have so much, and learn carpentry to build some guillotines.

Maybe the French will help us again, they’ve got some experience with this.

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Why do you need to learn carpentry? Isn’t it a slot with a big metal blade? Add a rope so you can pull it up, and let it go to make it work…

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29 points

You don’t want it to fall apart after one use, see? Need to make sure it can stand up to the job. We don’t want to build to Harbor Freight standards here. Take pride in our work.

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Look, I’m no guillotine-ologist, but I think if I was going to construct one I would forgo my usual method of measure once and cut 5 to 10 times until I have to go get another board because I’ve destroyed the last one.

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We dont need guillotines. We need to heal our culture and unify Americans by ending the two party system that thrives off our division. We are so big we should be lead by a coalition of factions. Not whatever the fuck this is.

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16 points

Ah yes, the same rhetoric that got us into this mess. Do nothing that actually makes a difference, but try to “fix” it from within. Meanwhile everything is being stolen with intentional legal loopholes.

How do you propose removing the two party system, which the two parties comprising the entirety of the government have every incentive to keep because it’s the only reason they have the power they do? The only way, as designed an within the existing system is to get enough representation in to force that change, which means replacing 2/3 of Congress essentially at the same time to force super majorities on both sides.

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Tariffs will not only erase the middle class but also erase our topsoil like it’s 1924 all over again if farmers aren’t subsidized and everything is left to go fallow. In terms of dollars we’re pretty even in terms of agricultural imports and exports, but in terms of acreage… We push a shitload of soy, corn, and wheat. We’re more than a little fucked in lots of ways if we’re hit with retaliatory tariffs, but the biggest one is if farmers don’t have any reason to plant crops and don’t have any money to do it, we’re doomed for dustbowl days.

Don’t even get me started on water, fluoride is one thing but if they start removing a lot of other stuff like phosphate and permanganate the entire country’s municipal water supply will be as bad as Flint MI.

I’m hoping Trump doesn’t pull off 95% of the stuff he talked about due to unbridled incompetence because if he still manages to pull off 80% of it we’re gonna be fucked

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7 points

If he manages to pull off even 25% we will be fucked until the last soul melts on the 200 degree pavement. Its never the time for rehressionism, but now is especially a bad time.

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9 points

We’re already net exporter of petroleum but they’re intending to carve up our parks and stuff, even though we won’t be able to sell it for more than the cost of producing it. Everyone will slam us with tariffs and go to other countries for their fix, and it’ll be cheaper than bottled water for us.

The idiots who don’t understand what a pronoun is and are terrified of their kids learning about them in English class will have cheap gas, but their kids will endure a literal hell for it.

And they’ll think Trump’s doing a good job for all of it, blame some totally unrelated shit for our interest rate being at 25%

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13 points

No they’ll keep things like the farm subsidies, may even expand them. The tariffs will leave those out. That’s the socialism their base is 100% reliant on. They won’t risk turning on the rural farmers until the end when it they’re not a threat. They’ve already shown a complete willingness to ignore absolutely everything else until this point.

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I’m hoping. Last trade war, Trump basically rolled out of bed one morning and decided to try it on China as some temporary transient thing in order to convey that the US has a lot of leverage (and it blew up in our faces), which is an entirely different beast than unilateral tariffs as part of fiscal policy. I have no clue how much it’d cost to just subsidize everything in perpetuity but I hope it isn’t some ridiculous sum.

He’ll probably do something like allowing us to sell semiconductors to foreign nations in exchange for dropping tariffs on agricultural exports which is also really fucking boneheaded. The art of the deal, giving away the only shit that has lots of value for us. China outpacing the US in tech is something Europe wouldn’t want, but if we cut ties with Europe they’d probably warm up to China and we’d become a really big insular nation that can’t even sustain its economy as is

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4 points

Ending farming and allowing nature to return would prevent a dust bowl. Allowing a field to go fallow means that a whole lot of plants start growing.

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2 points

It might do that in some fields but it’d take ages in those spots where all you see is corn as far as the eye can see. Might be switchgrass growing in a drainage ditch but it’d just creep in like capillary action on a paper towel. You’d need to have people out there casting seed at least

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-60 points

Not much will change, this guy has been president before, he spend more time on the golf course then in the oval office.

I expect lots of embarrassing speeches and truths/tweets, but other then that the purple party autocrats will be running the country like they always do.

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74 points

They have project 2025 now with hundreds of people ready to jump into government and make it happen

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Right now, this is what I am telling myself. Let’s just hope he is only as bad as he was the first go around, and not as bad as he has been claiming he will be on the campaign trail. He is the lyingest sack of shit to ever hold office. Let’s cross our fingers he was lying about most of the shit he promised his cult.

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8 points

Last time he was in office housing assistance programs were gutted so that will most likely change

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When he won before, he was outside the Republican party establishment and just put his own unprepared cronies in charge.

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-32 points

Yes, there’s an awful lot of hysteria about Trump, when in reality he’s just a shit president.

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There is some panicking prompted by the horrible things he’s promised to do but probably can’t, but:

-He got Roe v. Wade overturned, stripping rights from Americans while also being responsible for a 3% increase in infant mortality in the US, the first significant increase in decades

-about as many people died of COVID as voted for Jill Stein, and while Trump isn’t responsible for all their deaths he significantly worsened the problem.

So I’d say beyond shit

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yeah, they are just being hysterical, it is not as if he publicly encouraged and condoned terrorism, right, comrade?

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10 points

He’s also not going to even try to do half the things he said because he’s a pathological liar

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11 points

He doesn’t have to. He doesn’t have to do much. Though since he now has unfettered opportunity, I think he will. The groundwork is laid for theocrats to run everything down to the dark confines of the womb.

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2 points

The headline in this comment is the 29 downvotes.

This is why I like you, Lemmy.

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175 points
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I have spent all day crying and drafting escape plans since my life is now in extreme danger. I’m a Latina immigrant, trans, and drag-adjacent performer

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What does your escape plan look like?

Edit: lmao people LARPing

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Maybe not a great idea for some individuals to advertise their escape plans in open channels online?

Honestly, the internet doesn’t feel “safe” anymore, in general. I’ve already stopped myself saying certain things a few times in the last 24 hours.

“Great Firewall of China” style internet incoming.

Put on your pirate hat and get while the gettings good. Sneakernets makin a comeback.

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3 points

Tbh I haven’t pirated much in years. Mind PMing me any decent trackers?

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If it’s a good escape plan you might help someone. I mean as long as it doesn’t require concealment to succeed. And I guess a lot of plans like “find a job abroad” don’t really need to be kept secret.

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3 points

Sure, advertising your secret plans in public might not be the best idea, regardles of the medium.

From the technical standpoint, internet has never been more secure and private. The amount of plaintext shit that was literally flying over the air just a decade ago was terrifying.

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27 points

I wish you luck and safety.

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90 points

Good luck and I wish you the safest journey to somewhere safe as possible.

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24 points

I hate that i’m saying this, but Canada or somewhere in the EU are probably your best bets. If Project 2025 goes according to plan we’re going to see a great upheaval come Q1 2025 that probably clusterfucks everything.

Long term with christian school mandates via defunding education and funding vouchers will further create a hostile nation for anyone who does not conform to a heterosexual white nationalist christian identity.

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26 points

If you’re in a blue state you will be much safer. If you’re not, see if you can relocate to one even if that means you sleep on someone’s couch for a while. I wish you the best.

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17 points

Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine are desperate for people to move there… And the Canadian border is right there just in case

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keep in mind this opinion also promises that it can’t be fixed, as the more blue voters that leave the red leaning states the more power those red leaning states have. Moving to a blue leaning state only removes the blue votes from the red leaning state in favor of increasing the power of an already blue state.

Of course if he somehow manages to find a way to do away with the election process this would be true, but currently the best bet overall is going to be stay in your state, honestly if you can lower solid blue districts in favor of saturating red districts that’s the best option but that’s a difficult task.

Our system does not operate under popular vote. It runs off the electoral college, its the main reason red states want to gerrymander the district lines to make all black areas be their own district, its less damage if every opponent is in the same district as it allows only one district to be in opposition instead of multiple.

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21 points

That’s all well and good, but are you really suggesting that trans people who are fearing for their lives should stay put to help the electoral college issues four years from now?

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9 points

If push comes to sobre shove, I sincerely invite you to look at Mexico as an alternative as a trans Latina. Sure, your life won’t be a luxury, but you’ll be happy and free. You’d be surprised at how well we’re doing now, how accepting the Mexican population is regarding important LGBT+ issues and what a bright future we have ahead of us.

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-8 points

Realistically… what do you expect to be radically different this time in comparison to the four years Trump has already been president?

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80 points

They’re organised this time

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63 points

Control of the house, senate, presidency and Judiciary.

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12 points

He had pretty much that his first two years. Maybe not the judicial branch, totally. But, he had both chambers of congress. They could have done a lot but didn’t because of incompetence, a little dissent and fear of electoral reprisals.

Now, they’re more organized and possibly more unified behind the rat-fucking that’s planned.

If they move too fast they’ll lose the House in two years. If they slow boil, we’ll all be cooked before we know it.

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28 points

They’re organized, have begun implementing the government takeover that they’ve worked towards since Reagan, and he’s officially been given immunity for anything he wants to do by the Supreme Court before entering office.

All of these plans have nothing to do with Trump, they’ve been being laid since Reagan and Nixon. Trump just stumbled on them, openly exposing them to the world because he’s such an extreme narcissist he MUST brag about anything he even thinks gives him power. We stopped it the first time, and had a chance to correct, but enough of the population has been drinking the Republican propaganda Kool-aid through Fix News since it’s inception. Fox News was started explicitly as a response to Nixon’s impeachment to provide an open partisan propaganda network for the Republican party. Nixon was going to be just fine until the media started educating the electorate, who demanded something be done. Congress was completely fine with Watergate until that point.

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4 points

Since Nixon. He designed and started the plan that Reagan followed.

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41 points

Last time, I don’t think Trump was expecting to win. He ended up needing to scrape together a cabinet, and a bunch of those officials were old-school Republicans who chafed at all the crazy stuff he wanted to do.

This time, the Heritage Foundation is preparing him, and the new Senate will rubber-stamp all his appointments. He will pick people who intend to “dismantle the administrative state”. Grover Norquist famously wanted to make Government so small he could drown it in fhe bathtub. He might get his wish.

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25 points

100% his plan the first time was to lose, talk a lot of shit and complain. Sell a bunch of merchandise and try it again over and over, grifting millions from idiots.

You can see it immediately when he wins. Both his and Melania’s expressions when they get the news show that winning wasn’t the plan. It’s also why he immediately started talking about fraud. He didn’t have any prepared talking points for winning, they were all based on losing and using that to power his next scams.

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20 points

We never recovered from the first time

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17 points

Project 2025. Complete control of all branches of government. A Supreme Court that says he can do whatever he wants. I’m sorry to be pessimistic, but we’re absolutely fucked.

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10 points

I’m not as doomer as everyone else for the short term. It’s the long term I’m worried about. He might get 2 more scotus members, and he’s going to do everything in his power to undercut any attempt to tackle climate change. And that includes his scotus picks who will almost certainly declare any needed attention to address climate change as unconstitutional.

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4 points

RIP Elana and Sonia

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Trump doesn’t actually think he’d be president the first time and never planned for it. They’ve had since then to prepare this time.

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3 points

Project 2025. They exposed their plan and now thry will implement it, and nithing can stop them.

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5 points

There are less adults/competent/people with any morals in the room now. Swap John Kelly and some of the slightly more upstanding members of his inner circle for RFK Jr and some of the worst of the worst

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241 points

Before, his power was checked by legislature…but now GOP has full control over the gov, and the supreme Court has 5 members nominated by Trump, soon to be 7.

Hand maidens tale seems possible. Destruction of the middle class through tariffs, union busting, tear down of heath coverage, teardown public schools, force colleges to abandon certain studies or no federal money…

Add in non stop fossil fuel promotion with drill baby drill attitudes, tear down NOAA and the nhc because strong hurricane news reinforces climate change.

I guarantee in 4 years Trump will try to name a successor instead of holding an election.

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in 4 years Trump will try to name a successor

That would require the narcissist to not think he’s still young and vibrant and will never die. He will go the same way his father did, being manipulated by the worst around him as he drifts into dementia. He will be propped up as a puppet as Reagan was.

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34 points

He could postpone the election if America is at war.

“We have always been at war with Eastasia”

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13 points

That’s funny, I could have sworn it was Eurasia last year. I must be mistaken.

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9 points

He will go the same way his father did, being manipulated by the worst around him as he drifts into dementia. He will be propped up as a puppet as Reagan was.

I’m quite sure that this is already the case.

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Here’s a horrifying thought: JD’s Silicon Valley puppetmasters wait until Trump has served just over 2 years into his term, then invoke the 25th and install JD. In the meantime, the MAGA types work the system to ensure they can guarantee a Vance victory through whatever means necessary for the next 2 cycles (since his first abbreviated session won’t count as an official term), or a total of 10 years, before most Americans even realize we have sleepwalked into a Vance dictatorship funded by and primarily benefiting oligarchs like Musk and Thiel

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61 points

tear down NOAA

Fuuuccckkkk… Add to the list of things I forgot… The AccuWeather guy is about to become even more wealthy…

The billionaire class are the only winners of this election, but then again when aren’t they the winner? Money is literally power.

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13 points

Trump had a Republican majority in the House and Senate when he entered office in 2017. They were incompetent, and it took them a while to get anything done.

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33 points

They didn’t have a Project 2025 game plan going in like they do now.

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5 points

Yeah but he probably thought he was going to have 8 years in a row. Now he has bigger ass-kissers.

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6 points

Wanna bet he’ll put up one of his kids (hell perhaps even Barron?) and bend the whole sycophantic side of the GOP into endlesdly propping them up?

In 4 years, you may simply get Trump III. I want to say this notion seems absurd, except that it absolutely isn’t.

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I guarantee in 4 years Trump will try to name a successor instead of holding an election.

No. He will not name a successor, he will remain president. Either he will eliminate elections or he will do like his idol, Putin. Arrest and murder anyone who dares oppose him.

He is an extreme narcissist and egotist. Like extreme extreme. He cannot see a future where he’s not on the throne.

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Goddamnitalltohell. I forgot we’re going to have to subscribe to private disaster warning systems. That’s pretty much it in a nutshell. Perfectly describes everything they want to do.

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Add in non stop fossil fuel promotion with drill baby drill attitudes

Do you remember a few years ago when the orange idiot hugged a piece of coal and called it “beautiful clean coal”? Ugh, what a dip shit.

I guarantee in 4 years Trump will try to name a successor instead of holding an election.

And it’ll certainly be one of his moronic children.

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