why are kill and violence censored?
It’s a thing that has started to appear because of mainstream social media deleting post with “bad vibes”. Kill, suicide, and such vocabulary are actively repressed to “ensure happiness”
That makes sense. Avoiding censorship is reasonable. I was thinking some people did it to avoid triggers, as if seeing ‘r*pe’ or ‘k!ll’ isn’t the exact same thing as seeing the words spelled out.
It’s more of a demonetization thing. I see it all over the YouTube videos of homicide investigation police interviews, which makes no sense.
Good thing you censored those naughty words, everyone on the internet are children and it’s not appropriate for them to know such no-no words.
I’m glad no child knows the word “kill”. Phew.
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Solved simply by treating tolerance as a social contract instead of an absolute moral doctrine.
Break the contract, lose the protections.
Human rights should always be universal and immutable, we can’t go around deciding who does or doesn’t have basic human rights. Antifa has to be the better people because unfortunately we have to be the adults in the room and show the children what it means to be a decent human being. But, having your human rights respected doesn’t mean that you’re immune to the consequences of your actions like getting the shit kicked out of you for being a Nazi prick, or getting locked up in prison for the rest of your life.
We do decide who doesn’t get all their rights all the time. It’s called jail.
No, there are real adults with these opinions. Real adults that perform real actions based on their opinions. If they can’t stop themselves from being uncivilized animals based on bigotry and discrimination then we need to protect the rest of our society that is peaceful and tolerant. The only way to be decent to absolute villains is to relinquish them of their ability to take action. Otherwise everything we’ve built since Babylon comes tumbling down.
Let’s walk through an example. Please note that I absolutely do not mean anything of what I’m about to say. Imagine someone were to say the following things.
I’m going to kill you. I don’t think you have a right to exist. I’m going to torture, dismember, and end you because I personally believe this is morally right. You do not deserve life. I will come to your home. I will take you in the night. I will make you watch as your family screams in terror while I take them all away. I will do this to everyone like you. I will destroy you because I believe it is the right thing to do. I will experiment on you. You will be like cattle for my whims because I do not believe you are human like me. You are just a meat sack. I will abuse you simply for my enjoyment because you hold no value beyond the value I give you. You are worthless, and I will dispose of you.
If someone legitimately said these things to you, if they really meant it, would you want the government to just be like, “hey man, they can say whatever they want. Human rights?” This is a Nazi’s inner monologue.
The paradox of tolerance can only apply to actions though, otherwise you just become the intolerant one that should be ostracized.
No
Saying shitty things doesn’t get you a free pass just because “it’s just words”
Saying shitty things is an action, and demands appropriate counter action
We have to be tolerant to the intolerant, otherwise, who defines what tolerance is?
Tolerating the intolerant is the price we have to pay to live in a just society.
You really should read the article that Dadifer@lemmy.world posted (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance#:~:text=The%20paradox%20of%20tolerance%20states,or%20destroyed%20by%20the%20intolerant.)
The TL;DR is that in order to create a tolerant society, ironically, the only thing that cannot be tolerated is intolerance. The paradox comes from the idea that if intolerance is tolerated and allowed to gain any kind of a foothold then the society is no longer tolerant, but if we stamp it out and nip it at the bud then that’s also intolerant.
However, the paradox obviously has one preferred outcome which is that intolerance of intolerance is the only way to maintain a (mostly) tolerant society. The other option is letting the Nazis win.
This isn’t an axiom. It’s just Karl Popper’s opinion. One of the few times the paradox of intolerance was actually invoked in a legal setting was in Communist Party of Germany v. the Federal Republic of Germany
The German federal government had petitioned for the Communist Party to be banned in 1952 on the basis that the party’s revolutionary practice means “the impairment or the abolition of the fundamental liberal democratic order in the Federal Republic”. Following hearings, the Federal Constitutional Court ordered in 1956 that the party be dissolved and its assets confiscated, and banned the creation of substitute organizations.
Why is the meme censored?
Last I heard it’s only being tested for AI-generated CSAM, not political stuff.
People don’t have a problem with tankies because they want to use violence against fascists. Violence against fascists is fine.
People dislike tankies because they’re reactionary assholes. They dislike them for cheer-leading unjustifiable abuses and failures because they believe we’re in some zero-sum game that excuses it. Because they’re extremists, oppressive authoritarians, and want to use violence against all of their ideological enemies, including the “wrong kinds” of communist.
The good things they believe in and do aren’t what people have an issue with: it’s the inexcusably bad parts of their ideology people don’t like, and the fact they’re obnoxious about it.
Edit: I stand by what I said, but apparently its easier to recognize flags when you expand the image … and my rant had nothing to do with the post.
Kay I need to ask, how does Lemmy use tankie? I’ve always thought it meant people who are willing to use violence against capitalist. I have a feeling I’m wrong.
AFAIK a tankie is someone who is a fan of authoritarian communism or socialism… I forget which but the key part is the authoritarianism part, I think.
Yeah like most of the time you ever see them recorded in public they’re just breaking shit and hitting random people accusing them of being a Nazi.
Do you have a link? Are any of these people westerners? I don’t think I’ve actually seen this. I am starting to think I’m not really sure what a tankie is.
It’s been a while since I have seen the video but i do remember the context behind it. It was during the 2020 BLM protests in the United States and many were identifying themselves as antifa (take it with a grain of salt, antifa is merely an ideology with no real leader or representative).
Some of those identifying as antifa were starting fights with others and making accusations. This was in addition to general arson ranging from property theft, destruction of property and starting fires. There are some even lighting up fireworks in the streets but it’s hard to tell if they are “apart” of antifa.
A Tankie is a hardcore communist usually with an affinity for authoritarianism. They are named “tankies” because during the cold war communists in western countries were defending the USSR’s use of tanks to crush anti government/communist protest, thus the name Tankie.
While one doesn’t mean the other they often have a prominent overlap with many of antifa being Tankies and vice versa.
Edit: the confusion was the original comment mistook the antifa logo as a communist symbol and referred to them as such and my comment was referring to antifa specifically .
