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231 points

Who ever thought punk was not progressive? At minimum it was blatantly anti-authoritarian and counter to the conservative culture in Thatcher’s UK and Reagan’s US. Why would anyone be shocked to find out that it was also pro-choice, feminist, and anti-discriminatory?

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150 points

Because the Nazi skinheads did a great job of co-opting the punk title for most people who weren’t actually interested in punk. The news media were very complicit in pushing that specific image to undermine the punk movement to the general public.

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66 points

That’s new to me. Where I live, punks and skinheads are natural enemies

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Like skinheads and goths, or skinheads and greasers, or skinheads and other skinheads

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17 points

That’s true everywhere. The issue isn’t what they are, the issue is how they were deliberately misrepresented. A whole lot of films and shows made it a point to conflate punks with white supremacists.

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6 points

But does the average Joe know that?

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5 points

Normies can’t tell the difference.

(Can you really blame them when it’s down to things like what color their shoelaces are?)

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5 points

They are everywhere.

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60 points

Nazi punks can fuck off

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17 points

That’s got a great ring to it!

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The Nazi skinheads co-opted skinhead. After the Geraldo Rivera episode everyone I knew let their hair grow out because they didn’t want to be associated with that shit. Before that there were only a few isolated scenes where you’d see Nazi skinheads. Cutting off your hair was popular in the hardcore punk scenes because it was contrary to the long feathered hair popular in the 70’s and 80’s plus it was a lot easier than trying to get a Mohawk to stand up straight. That took a whole can of hairspray and we were all broke.

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2 points

Y’all needed more Elmer’s glue for the mohawks

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31 points

Because the Nazi skinheads did a great job of co-opting the punk title

Nah. They tried REAL hard to infiltrate and take over, but real punks always managed to repel them.

for most people who weren’t actually interested in punk

And/or were just old fogies.

The news media were very complicit in pushing that specific image to undermine the punk movement to the general public.

Corporate news and undermining left wing people by conflating them with far right hate clubs. Name a more iconic duo.

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14 points

The US government and coups in South America?

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2 points

Just to be clear, here, I’m not suggesting that the neo Nazis actually did take over, only that that image was the wider public perception.

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21 points

Some people just like the music and are either bad at media analysis or don’t care enough to look into to further than the surface level.

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27 points

Like Paul Ryan loving Rage Against The Machine.

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1 point

Hearing vs Listening.

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Because the right have been carefully spending decades rewriting history and dumbfucks keep falling for it. Punk, doctor who and ratm were never conservative but pundits will tell you at great length how shocked and appalled they are when these things keep being left af

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3 points

Doctor Who? The television show ran by the british government?

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2 points

Yes, terribly woke

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16 points

I mean a pretty popular punk song is NOFX Ronnie and Mags. It just talks incredible shit about Regan and thatcher. Listen to NOFX Jesusland and that should indicate what it’s all about. Damn I love punk.

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4 points

Thanks for making me discover some punk songs.

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12 points

Some people are weird.

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6 points

Cause the majority of people on this planet are idiots?

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