An ex-MAGA activist warns “no civic savior is coming” as Donald Trump’s cognitive decline becomes undeniable

What if Donald Trump defeats President Biden and takes control of the White House in 2025? He has already announced his plans to become the country’s first dictator, and to launch a reign of terror and revenge against his so-called enemies. As detailed in documents such as Project 2025, Agenda 47, and elsewhere, the infrastructure is being created right now to put Trump’s neofascist plans to end multiracial pluralistic democracy in effect on “day one." The so-called resistance will not have the courtesy of ramping up or mobilizing to stop Dictator Trump’s onslaught. It will be a “shock and awe” campaign visited upon the American people.

Dictator Trump’s reign of terror will be made even worse by the fact that as shown during recent speeches, interviews, and at other events he appears to be encountering severe difficulties in cognition, language, and memory.

In a series of recent conversations with me here at Salon, Dr. John Gartner, a prominent psychologist and contributor to the bestselling book “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President,” has issued this warning: “Not enough people are sounding the alarm, that based on his behavior, and in my opinion, Donald Trump is dangerously demented. In fact, we are seeing the opposite among too many in the news media, the political leaders and among the public. There is also this focus on Biden’s gaffes or other things that are well within the normal limits of aging. By comparison, Trump appears to be showing gross signs of dementia. This is a tale of two brains. Biden’s brain is aging. Trump’s brain is dementing.”

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Again for the chuds and shills in the back:

“Not enough people are sounding the alarm, that based on his behavior, and in my opinion, Donald Trump is dangerously demented. In fact, we are seeing the opposite among too many in the news media, the political leaders and among the public. There is also this focus on Biden’s gaffes or other things that are well within the normal limits of aging. By comparison, Trump appears to be showing gross signs of dementia. This is a tale of two brains. Biden’s brain is aging. Trump’s brain is dementing.

And let’s be honest, Trump has shown signs of dementia since the beginning of his first term. It was obvious when hearing his communication when he was younger.

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44 points

Trump is now worse than Reagan 2nd term: not only is he demented, he and his people simply can’t hide it at all.

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3 points

Trump thinks he doesn’t need to hide it, and he’s too much of a narcissist to let anyone home anything about him.

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20 points

Person, woman, man, camera, TV.

He passed the test! He can remember words he remembered!

Not that any test was given in that moment, but facts don’t matter when you have Alternative Facts!™

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2 points

I love how he literally named things in his field of view for this. That speech certainly included words

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104 points

What’s terrifying about MAGA isn’t Trump, it’s who comes next.

A second term for Trump will be terrible, but it’ll end fairly quickly as I don’t think he’s going to live another 10 years.

However, if you take a look at the “Next generation” they are all copying trumpism but just making it a bit more crazy. Vivek is the poster child for this behavior. They are finding more and more than just abandoning pretext and saying the quiet part outloud doesn’t lose elections.

The only way to stop this is having the GOP lose over and over and over again. After Biden’s presidency the GOP cannot see power for at least another decade otherwise it will just snowball into more extreme craziness (it may do that anyways as the insane base will keep moderates out of office).

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Trump has also stated he wants to be a dictator on day 1. This plus all of the other anti-democratic stances of the Republicans has me convinced that if Republicans win in 2024, there isn’t going to be another real election in the US. It’ll either be so corrupt, abbreviated or “managed” that it’s effectively Russia, or there will be an “emergency” that delays a national election indefinitely.

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11 points

And then when we stop following the laws and the election is cancelled, we’ll see if the second amendment actually matters.

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2nd amendment won’t matter unless a very specific thing happens: the entire government and executive branches, namely the military, collapses. It really depends on what the military does and enforces domestically. Whatever government the greater military props up wins and nothing individual citizens do can compete with that.

If everything collapses, famine will be the prime mover. And if you’re not part of a roving band of armed looters or an entrenched armed community, you’re screwed.

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Cults of personality tend to die when the leader at the center goes away (by jail or death or something else). There are exceptions, but it’s what tends to happen.

You can see this in the lackluster performance of down ballot candidates who get Trump endorsements. The cult wants Trump, the singular man. They don’t turn out to put his lackeys into power. Some of them still win because they’re in safe red districts, but they don’t win as hard as they should.

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It’s a lesson Caesar’s Legion in Fallout New Vegas taught us. A cult built around a charismatic leader often collapses into infighting when the leader dies. They follow the man, not his ideals. It may not happen right away, but it will given enough time. The followers will start to disagree on small things, some will be scooped up by some other charismatic grifter. In the end the movement fractures.

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Not disagreeing with you necessarily, but I just love how you used a fictional example to learn from, which could be total bullshit since fiction is just that, made up.

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4 points

The same thing happened with Alexander the Great.

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Or we can look at a real world example. Scientology.

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What? Which ones?

I’m actually drawing blanks. Perhaps it’s survivorship bias but to me it seems like most cults of personality stick around if there’s no force actively shutting them down, generally with violence.

Nazi germany, for example, didn’t end because hitler died. It ended because the allies and the soviet union occupied germany for decades squelching any Nazi sentiment. Ditto for Japan with the Hirohito (who himself was in a long line of royals that still continues just with muted power). You can look at mormonism where the founder was killed by a mob, that’s still very much alive. Or Scientology where the leader had a heart attack. Heck, even the moonies are still around.

Without a heavy societal push, cults of personality very often linger.

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Oneida Cult. It dispersed almost immediately when the founder was arrested, and all that remains is the silverware manufacturer. Quite a few other examples in upstate New York in the 19th century, which was a very popular place to start weird new religious movements. There were tons of them, but you only hear about a handful that survived–Mormons, 7th Day Adventists, and Jehovah’s Witnesses are about it.

Nazis did fight right up to the point where Hitler died. He was the one pushing them to fight until every man, woman, and child in Germany was dead. Hitler died on April 30, and the official surrender happened on May 2. Nobody was actually interested in continuing to let Germany burn.

So yes, it’s a matter of survivorship bias. You know the counter examples because they stayed around, but they’re exceptions.

Without a heavy societal push, cults of personality very often linger.

They may linger, but they never have the power they used to. If they do, they have to rebuild from scratch, which is more or less what Trump does with white supremacists.

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Scientology is a religion, was always meant to be a religion. Trump isn’t going down that angle. Ironically, he’s too much of a narcissist to have the self inflection enough to become a religious leader.

With something like Trump, who else in the party is going to take up the banner? DeSantis? He got completely fucking disgraced this last year attempting that. Haley? She’s a sociopath and nobody really likes her on either side. Trumps children? They’re about as charismatic as a wet sock.

He has no legacy. He’s it. It’s the weakpoint of serial narcissists. Their empire collapses when they do, because they’re too insanely jealous to share any secrets or power with anyone else.

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the only way to stop this is having the GOP lose over and over and over again.

This is asking a lot imo. You’re asking everyone to be vigilant and I think the last 10 years have proven that a significant proportion of the voter population cannot be relied on to be vigilant, because they’re content in being myopic.

That seems to be the weak point of a republic. I just watched a video essay on YouTube about the politics of Star Wars and how the Republic fell to the Empire and I think the guy made a lot of good points and it included a call to action in our elections. I think Star Wars is known to have taken from the fall of the Roman Republic and there’s more recent examples of the death of a democracy in the Weimar Republic in Germany.

With the two real life examples, all it took was a prolonged period of decay (from inside and outside factors) to lead to the Roman Autocratic Empire and Nazi Germany. I’d argue the US was on this relative path before with the America First party that rose to oppose FDR in the 1930’s. All it may take is another bad world event to push people into being content with a populist autocrat like Trump.

I’m still hopeful, but we should all take the lessons of the past into account when deciding how to move forward.

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Not to mention that the resistance is immensely fractured. I’m still not sure that we’ve seen an event heinous enough to galvanize the opposition past ideological boundaries. For many, stopping Trump is not yet enough to delay their potential political gains. Populism rides on the strongest human emotions, the easiest and vaguest enemies, and the simplest (wrong) answers. It’s going to take a united effort, the sort that was brought about by the geopolitical situation in the FDR era, or I worry that we fail.

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The “resistance” is clustering themselves into smaller and smaller areas and because of our shitty representative apportionment they lose political power when moving to populated places.

If we want to fix this we need to convince people that the amenities in cities aren’t going to survive when the federal government mainly represents empty land and thinks those amenities are from Satan.

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TBF, the only thing that matters is if he lives another 4 years. 8 if he loses this election.

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The implication is that if Trump wins, he won’t be leaving in 4 years. He won’t be leaving until death. Because that’s what dictators do.

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But doesn’t that just mean they will go back to not saying the quiet part out loud? Doubt they will actually change and have someone decent as a candidate anytime soon.

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Exactly. Conservatives do not change. They just change how loud they are about their bigotry.

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Republican party doesnt need a mercy kill.

It needs a legitimate, in depth, non-partisian federal criminal investigation and convictions against every one in the party that has betrayed their office and sold America out to foreign powers… Or have fucked kids.

Which, unfortunately for them, seems to be a significant chunk of them.

Start with all the ones that I’ve been balls deep on Putin.

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No.

No mercy.

Make it an example.

Let them be electorally crucified. Make voting GOP as reviled as voting for the KKK.

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Is it not? I’ve already felt that way, but having the comparison is a good point.

In a way, voting for the KKK is smarter. At least then you’d be part of the in-group you’re voting for.

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Is it not?

God, I wish.

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mercy-kill

I don’t see why they deserve any mercy.

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Because not all sheep deserve to be slaughtered. There’s a lot of people who vote out of fear because they don’t know any better. It’s the Republican party that needs to be done away with.

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exactly.

Whether we like to believe it or not, no one is the villan of their own story. I won’t deny that the Republican party courts the worst of the worst types of scumbags around us, but their propaganda machine gets so many people in so many different ways.

They managed to get my otherwise amazing gay cousin to vote for Trump by his displeasure with the Israel/Palestine conflict (this was well before the current genocide) The media he was consuming framed everything in terms of Democrat support so he was lead to believe the Republicans have the “compassionate” resolution. He votes against his own well being because of propaganda… :(

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I think it’s important to clarify here that “the Republican Party” (see also: “the GOP”) refers to the party leaders and political figures. It doesn’t (usually) refer to the voters, although you might hear “Republican consituency” or “Republican voters”, or even “Republicans”. But “the Republican Party” is generally agreed to mean the leaders, or the organization that presents them as leaders. I think you agree with that point because you seem to be making the same clarification in your last sentence. My comment, and the article headline, are referring to this group.

I think I agree with you that the sheep don’t need to be slaughtered, although they are going to need some very tough medicine.

The people who led them to this point? No mercy.

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The Republican Party simply represents the voters, they’d get no votes without that.

So no, they don’t deserve mercy. The average conservative voter is the very reason we have this problem to begin with.

Politicians need someone to represent. They found it in America’s racists and nationalists.

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Yes, but part of the Republican strategy is to distort the truth or history using lies. They may have found what they want or need in America’s racists and nationalists, but not until they pumped them full of misinformation first.

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Bollocks. Anyone who still supports Trump after 6 January 2021 knows exactly what they are signing up for.

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