https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

First time this happens since a few months

154 points

I think it’s much less intimidating to new users now compared to when I joined last year. The barrier to entry has been reduced significantly.

There are tons of active communities now, mobile apps that work great (this is a big one), and many more tools to block content that you don’t want to see.

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there is also more diverse content than the crap that was on here six months ago.

when 50% of the frontpage is linux memes… you’re not going to gain the interest of most new users. now it seems to be down to about 20%

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10 points

And cause of windows 11, those 20% are more relevant than ever.

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5 points

It’s also worth noting I’ve recently been seeing a lot of Linux posts from people who just switched, this was somewhat of a trend on Reddit as well but imo the Linux posting has gotten noticeably less toxic toward newer users and a lot more understanding of the “using Linux without wanting to spend hours configuring everything” perspective.

Side point that’s somewhat related to that: I wonder how the growth of other platforms FOSS platforms like Lemmy, Mastodon, Matrix, etc. has impacted Linux project development. Not sure if it’s just me but it seems like it’s helped a lot with making Linux communities more accessible.

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4 points

Do I hear you say there’s not enough linux memes? Let’s fix that!

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2 points

Anyway to make the all page more diverse? I feel like it’s just 10 communities that appear there and it’s basically broken down to tech, memes and politics. I’m on lemmy.world and ysint voyager. Every once in a while I see stuff from sh.itjust.works.

I know when I used to use kbin, you first had to let your device sync with other instances before they started populating onto your feed.

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31 points

I still have no clue how instances work but whatever I’m doing has been working fine for nearly a year

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instances are just distinct servers really.

and some of them are purpose/politics specific.

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25 points

From an end user perspective there’s not that much to think about, thankfully.

Basically, it’s like having two websites that mirror each other’s content. You can sign up for Forum A and be able to read and write posts that users on Forum B can also see. People’s names are tagged with the name of the forum they are registered at, but otherwise everything you do and see happens on your own site of choice and there’s no difference where it comes from.

If Forum A doesn’t like Forum C, but Forum B doesn’t mind, Forum A can choose to disconnect from Forum C and hide their users and posts, while Forum B can still see both. It only gets tricky when someone from Forum B makes a post that people from both Forums A and C are in, but all of the posts from C users are invisible to A users.

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9 points

It’s like how there’s loads of different email providers but they can all still email each other.

Just like Gmail can send mail to Outlook and any other @EmailProvider.com, lemmy.world can populate it’s feed/comments from lemm.ee and any other @LemmyInstance.com

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6 points

Most often I’ve seen instances use as super communities. Largely revolving around a bigger topic. KDE runs their own with their own subcommunities for instance. They are far from the only ones. Just the one I use the most and a came to mind first. Having your own instance slap server allows you far more control over your communities then just hosting on someone else’s server. But from an end user perspective very largely transparent. not even being noticeable oftentimes.

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I still have no clue how instances work but whatever I’m doing has been working fine for nearly a year

You have a user account “Got_Bent”, on an instance (you can think of this as a “server”), lemmy.world. That’s your home instance. Thus, you are @Got_Bent@lemmy.world.

You can view communities on that instance. This post, in fact, is on a community on the lemmy.world instance, !fediverse@lemmy.world.

You can also view communities on any other other instances that lemmy.world is federated with (which is most of them). For example, !unitedkingdom@feddit.uk. By-and-large, you can use them the same way you can communities on your home instance.

Reddit is pretty similar, just that with Reddit, there’s only one “instance”, Reddit.

Instances might go down (so users with that instance as their home instance can’t log in and communities on that instance aren’t accessible. Some have certain rules about what users who use that instance as their home instance can do. Others have certain rules about what communities on their instance are allowed to do. For example, my home instance, lemmy.today, wants to avoid defederating with other instances (which means that people with that home instance can see all other content). Some instances, like beehaw.org, want to keep some content that might be objectionable to their users out, and will tend to defederate with other instances if they consider them to be problematic. Some instances allow hosting communities that have pornography (like lemmynsfw.com) and some do not (like sh.itjust.works). Same thing for communities dealing with religion or extreme political views, and so on.

In general, it’s helpful to have a home instance in the same rough part of the world as you, as it’ll make things more-responsive.

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5 points

New user here…what? Easy to use? I’ve gotten to the point where I know how to do things, but, it’s still needlessly complicated. Yes there are many active communities, but there are also not very many of them. The ironic thing is, you need to be discussing mainstream topics on the non-mainstream platform. If I wanted to talk about my favorite band? Nobody is here to do that. And if I do find a niche community here, but it’s on another instance? NOW I know what to do. But when I first got here, I was ONLY subscribing to sublemmys on .world because it’s the only way I knew how.

For this platform to grow, we’re going to have to make it easy. Like, braindead easy.

Make it so you just click “join”. Make it so you’re logged in across ALL of Lemmy. Your posts may originate from Lemmy.World, but a non-techie wouldn’t know or care about any of that. I see Lemmy making a big deal about the seperate instances. Like it’s a selling point. It’s only a selling point for people smart enough to understand it.

But imagine Britney. Now Britney is a fictional person I just made up to represent your bottom of the barrel intelligence level of people these days. Britney is just some pretty valley girl. She doesn’t know what RSS is. She’s never heard of Linux, despite having an android phone. Britney is who you cater the site to. Because Britney is America. She wants sublemmys about “The Voice” and “The Masked Singer”. She wants a sublemmy for Taylor Swift. I think you’re starting to get the type of person I’m talking about.

You can still operate Lemmy almost exactly how it is now. Just make it so even if you know NONE of that stuff, you can still operate it freely. I will use MySpace as an example (for the brief 4 years it was the top social media). There was a default MySpace look. If all you did was sign up, and do nothing else, you still had a myspace account, and you could still customize it to an extent. It’s the basic profile everyone thinks of when you think of a myspace profile. The colors, the layout, the look. It was still usable. Then you had people using CSS and HTML and I think Javascript was available. Now suddenly you have 50 different profiles, all looking completely different. All functioning exactly the same, but you could go as deep or as shallow as you wanted.

THATS what this site needs. Don’t take away the stuff for the techie people. Let them go nuts. Let them do crazy things with this platform. But also, to increase userbase, make it as shallow as possible unless the user changes things. America wants shallow and not challenging. America doesn’t want to think. Britney just wants a place to type “I LOVE TAYLOR! I LOVE TAYLOR! I LOVE TAYLOR!” over and over. You can keep her happy, and keep yourselves happy. And I’m somewhere in the middle. It needs to be a platform that conforms to the user. Because if the user needs to conform to the platform, they will not join that platform.

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116 points

Did Reddit do something stupid to scare people away again?

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AFAIK they didn’t. This time we have natural growth

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32 points

Bots in the build up to the election here in the states?

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27 points

EU also has elections on Sunday.

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47 points

They have bots roaming the site, banning people, seemingly at random. I went from never having been banned on reddit on a 10 year account, to banned for 3 days twice, and then permanently banned all in the span of a month.

And when did this happen? The week after the IPO went public.

And what kind of messages got me banned? Well one of them was in /r/Cleveland where a guy posted a security camera picture of the guy who stole his bike. I made the comment that the theif looks like a guy who stole MY bike in the early 90s, and that maybe this was his son. Keeping it in the family business.

I was banned for that comment for “Harassment and abuse of reddit users”. The action was performed by an AI bot. If I wanted an appeal I could appeal. So I did. It SAID the appeal was handled by a real human. They still sided with the bots decision, which tells me that it wasn’t handled by a real person.

So now I’m here. Just don’t steal my bike, ok guys?

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37 points

Guys, I’ll distract him, you get his bike!

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7 points

Not again!!! …is that a squirrel???

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4 points

Did ianovic68 steal his bike in the 90s?

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24 points

Hey dude, I’ve been looking for you for so long, since my Dad stole your bike and that was a turning point in my life, since I made a point of stealing your son’s bike.

It is said that this will continue for generations until the seventh son of a seventh son, who’ll transform into an upside down toothless vampire who likes garlic.

In order for this prophecy to come true, please ensure all your progeny keeps buying bikes.

PS Welcome to Lemmy!

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20 points

I made the comment that the theif looks like a guy who stole MY bike in the early 90s, and that maybe this was his son. Keeping it in the family business.

That’s hilarious. They don’t deserve you.

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Just don’t steal my bike, ok guys?

I won’t!

…but what kind of bike and where is it, just so I know what I’m not stealing and where I should avoid stealing it from

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reddit is about the same in my opintion, but I do see a lot more activity on the lemmy side. I think its a combination of:

  1. Less rules around communities. The barrier of entry is much lower here to post, and things dont get auto-removed because of trigger happy mods.
  2. 2% of users post 90% of content. And a lot of them moved over to lemmy.
  3. Servers can be brought into existence and removed at will. This may seem like a bad thing, but what it means is that the best lemmy servers can evolve and be successful in a way reddit cant. Some have different modifications to make them more user friendly, some have excellent uptime, etc…etc…
  4. People from mastodon/misskey/other fediverse instances can comment/post. Even if that is not what a vast majority of us do, it does help the numbers and will continue to help engagement.

Also to @Blaze@reddthat.com Do you know if the sats above take into account the generally banned instances of lemmy? I know that a lot of instances earlier this year decided to become de-federated from the general fediverse. Do you happen to know if the website take into account those servers?

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Also to @Blaze@reddthat.com Do you know if the sats above take into account the generally banned instances of lemmy? I know that a lot of instances earlier this year decided to become de-federated from the general fediverse. Do you happen to know if the website take into account those servers?

Not sure about this unfortunately

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2 points

Fair enough.

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2 points

This one had .zip and that’s why I choose it.

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19 points

The cracked apps using personal API keys stopped working a few days ago. Already fixed now I think.

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15 points

Yep. That’s why I’m here again. My reddit app may work for now, but the writing is on the wall in bigger, bolder letters.

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7 points

Welcome back! Hope you like what we’ve done with the place.

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2 points

Welcome back!

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They actually did, for a few days no 3rd party apps worked at all. But now they do again.

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10 points

I thought all third party apps already stopped working?

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7 points

Have you heard of ReVanced? Most commonly known for patching youtube to allow more features, mainly adblocking. Well they have patches for a ton of apps now so if you have a reddit account and say you’re a developer you get your own API key they can be injected into some apps. It didn’t work for me for a while but I eventually got it to work for the random search result from reddit.

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3 points

They were working around it by using personal API keys iirc.

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2 points

Not all of them, Dystopia for example was allowed to stay as is because of accessibility features that the native app lacks. It was even working just fine during the recent outage.

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1 point

I use Geddit occasionally, I don’t know if it supports voting or commenting though since I just browse.

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101 points

I think more people are coming here for my comments and delusions of grandeur.

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34 points

Yeah I only joined when I saw you had

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24 points

I mostly joined because of you so, seems very probable

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17 points

That’s why I’m here

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14 points

Are you the same guy from the warlizard gaming forums?

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3 points

I love that I got this reference.

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2 points

No.

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1 point

Are you?

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90 points

Hi I’m new here. My friend has been trying to get me in for ages. The reason I am here is because my Reddit account of 10 years and one of 3 years got permabanned. And it was really for no reason. I tried to make a new account and that also got instantly permabanned. That’s when I found out that my 10year account also got banned. So yeah fuck what happened on Reddit.

I’m really liking lemmy and my iOS app (mlem) and enjoying the community. The only thing I miss from Reddit is the video integration.

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40 points

What I don’t miss from reddit is the bot comments. Not the novelty bots that reply if your comment is in alphabetical order or something like that, but actual chat gpt responses to regular posts or comments.

I have no idea what the point of them is, but they’re awful.

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35 points

Those were getting so out of hand.

u/OP: “What’s a good mouse for a mix of productivity and gaming”

u/DefinitelyNotABot: “A good mouse for a mix of productivity and gaming is something you should be looking for if you need a mouse that is good for work and play. A good mouse for productivity and gaming will have a good balance of performance and features. Fortunately, finding a good mouse for a mix of productivity and gaming is not difficult due there being plenty of mouse options available to you[…]”

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11 points

What’s the point of those types of bots, though? I guess they’re just trying to have vaguely genuine looking accounts to use for some future purpose, maybe political or advertising related.

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5 points

They’ll sooner or later appear here too, that’s sadly a reality all social media will suffer from now on. No filter can detect AI replies for long.

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3 points

Do you think users, moderators, and admins on Lemmy could be more equipped (or at least more incentivized) to combat malicious bots compared to Reddit?

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2 points

Running such a bot with an intentionally underpowered language model that has been trained to mimic a specific Reddit subculture is good clean absurdist parody comedy fun if done up-front and in the open on a sub that allows it, such as r/subsimgpt2interactive, the version of r/subsimulatorgpt2 that is open to user participation.

But yeah, fuck those ChatGPT bots. I recently posted on r/AITAH and the only response I got was obviously from a large language model… it was infuriating.

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3 points

First rule of AITAH:

If the story isn’t completely made up, no one will believe it’s true.

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There are a few GitHub issues on the Lemmy repo to integrate video support:
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2318
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2249

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13 points

Welcome! Hopefully you know about Lemmy Explorer, I’ve found it very useful in finding communities of interest to me.

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5 points

That’s wild, I’ve said so much zeisty stuff with my account but it’s still not banned.

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7 points

What I said wasn’t zesty at all. The only thing I can think of is someone went to all my comments and reported me. I’ve been temp banned from communities before but never banned from Reddit and would never expect to get permanently banned from Reddit the site along with my other Reddit accounts.

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1 point

I got suspended for a Boeing joke, but deleted my account after that. I hope the same does not happen to Lemmy bcz the Internet needs a place to discuss links on the Internet.

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4 points

Welcome!

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3 points

Sup J ;)

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3 points

Welcome!

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72 points

I think we are now in a positive cycle:

  • More and more useful comments are posted,
  • Which means more people get interested,
  • which attracts more and more people to the platform
  • That increases the quality and quantity of posts/comments/etc.
  • etc.
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21 points

Hey, ya get what ya pay for. Pay a little money, get a little quality. Pay a LOT of money, get a LOT of quality.

Well, I didn’t get paid ANYTHING to be here, so you can imagine the quality of MY posts!

Hey, why did the poop walk into the poop?

To poop to the other poop! :D

See? Just zero quality…

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It’s beans worthy quality content.

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5 points

This is fun but partially incorrect; yes, more money is better quality, however zero money means infinite quality. Prove me wrong, exhibit A is “the other site”.

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