146 points

… Is it possible the office is in Southeast London but the actual work is North and West?

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107 points

This is how field service jobs are written in my experience, yes.

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-65 points

How fucking spoiled are Europeans when they won’t take a job on the other side of town???

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95 points

I love that you reversed it, when it should be “how terrible do Americans have it where we have to commute so far just to get to work”

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19 points

And it says the hours are 9 to 5. Who the fuck cares then? If it takes you four hours to get from south east London to north west London, then there’s half of your day. Grab some crisps or some spotted dick and put some footie on your vodafone in the tube.

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6 points

This could be a 90 commute in each direction depending on where it is.

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It’s fairly insane that from Romford to Sutton which is only 30 miles, it’s roughly an hour and 45 minutes.

I just went to the Wiltern in downtown LA last night and it’s about the same distance as Romford to Sutton from where I live, and without traffic, it takes 40 minutes, with traffic an hour.

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4 points

Where I live, you can drive for three hours and still be within the city limits

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4 points

I live in a suburb to the east of Phoenix. I wouldn’t even consider a job on the west side. Nothing to do with Europe, just the reality of a large city.

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88 points

Unrelated but this is literally the first time in my life I’ve seen an actual 9-5 job, I only ever see 8-5 or 9-6

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71 points

That extra hour of wage theft is why it’s the most prevalent kind of theft.

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55 points

✨️unpaid lunch hourrrrrrr✨️

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22 points

remember to be back by 12:30 for the standup at 12:45

you should have finished eating by then

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10 points

The only good thing about the security industry in my country is all breaks are paid. However if there is a security emergency on your break you need to drop everything and sort it, as these things tend to be time sensitive.

That said do NOT get into the security industry, workers are treated terribly by the public and higher ups, if you can imagine.

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That seems like a US thing? All Nordic Europe countries 8-16 is the US version of 9-5. 8-17 (9-6) would be a 4 days a week job hitting the normal 37 hour work week.

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Not all Nordic countries. The main standard work weeks in Sweden are 40 hours for office work employees. Our collective union agreements for most office work places I know of agree on at least half hour unpaid lunch and at least two 15 minute paid breaks each work day. Every place I worked for had flexible hours, which meant I could choose between turning up between 7 or 9, as long as I didn’t miss meetings and worked 40 hours a week at an average, based on monthly calculations. And any overtime was compensated with double time off and/or monetary overtime compensation.

This will of course be different for shift work or nurse/doctor positions. But I’ve never worked an 8-16 job.

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8-16 each day is 40 hours not counting the breaks. (Counting them would make it 37)

So do Swedish people work from 8-16, 9-5 or do office workers work from 8-17, 9-6 everyday (inkluding Friday)?

I have family in Malmö and that is not the case for them. Can’t speak in the standard for Sweden but I worked closely with Norwegians and they had the same 8-16 (8-15 Friday) in Oslo as we did in in Denmark(KBH).

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Definitely not a US thing. Here in the UK I don’t think I’ve worked 9-5 for over 20 years…

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It’s because they reckon on 8-hour days but then under UK law they have to give you two 15-minute breaks and one 30-minute lunch. So they decide that they don’t like that so you’ve got to work the hours back so they add an extra hour on and then claim that your break times don’t count.

But the problem with that is the only reason that I’m having a break in the town rather than at my house is because of all the other hours I’m doing around it. So really they should be paying for it. Capitalism is going to capitalism.

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Before my current job, any job I’ve had had an 8.5 hour shift with a half an hour unpaid lunch. But I managed to score a gig where I have an 8.0 hour shift with a half an hour paid lunch. It seems uncommon in the US, but I guess it must be common elsewhere.

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-7 points

Yeah, theres an hour for lunch. It works out to 8 hour days

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5 points

You’re supposed to get paid for that.

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2 points

“Supposed to” according to what?

If you’re in the US, Federal labor laws explicitly allow “meal periods” to not be paid, though short breaks must be paid. Neither is required to be offered to employees, though.

Source: https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks

State laws differ, of course, and many states - e.g., California - have much more employee-friendly laws. However, even in CA, a meal period must be offered but isn’t required to be paid (unless it’s an on-duty meal break).

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-7 points

You get salary, its paid

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82 points

My favorite is when the title says remote or local to you, but then the body of the posting says you would be required to relocate and that it was intentionally posted in multiple cities to reach a wider audience.

If I wanted to work in Minnesota, I would have searched for jobs in Minnesota.

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why does everyone have to have “excellent” skills? just logically not everyone can have excellent skills, or there wouldn’t be excellent skills. i very much doubt everyone currently working there also has equally “excellent” skills. you can’t just say you have to be perfect. i fucking hate this shit

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In fairness to requiring “excellence”, I’d imagine most professionals have excellent skills in their field compared to the average person.

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I’ve worked a lot of different jobs over the years, some well in my skill set, some well outside, and if there’s one thing I’ve noticed, it’s that with very few exceptions, knowledge and skills matter very little, what matters most is sucking up to the boss, a skill I am exceedingly bad at. Interestingly enough, one of the jobs where skill mattered most was construction, even when I worked for my uncle, he barely cut me any breaks. He once said “you hammer like old people fuck”. Not to mention the number of times he yelled at me because I was shit with a tape measure. “Cut it 3 times and it’s still too short”. Yeah nepotism didn’t help me there.

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What I hate more are the entry level jobs that will be like that. Like bro it’s an entry level job and you’re expecting people to have a super deep understanding makes no sense. Like I get it’s just marketing and a way to lower the number of applicants to get just the really good ones but it makes it so much harder to figure out what level of skill a job is looking for if they all say they want experts with certain skills or tools.

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It’s just marketing.

It’s like how a 7 or 8 out of 10 movie should mean it’s really great, but actually means it was just “ok”.

We like the idea that we are getting something above average, which ends up with a skewed idea of what average is.

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It’s not even that. If they ask for average they get trash. If they ask for excellent then trash doesn’t apply and they get average

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Or the trash with excellent ability to lie their ass off applies.

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Yeah at my job at the end of each week my boss will assign priorities to tasks as not priority to high priority. She’ll change them around and discuss why for about 45 minutes and by the end of the meeting every single task is listed as highest priority every week. If everything is always equally the highest priority is anything a priority anymore? Lol

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I hate the ones that are listed as remote, but when you read deeper it says remote - in x location, if there was a way to filter those out of searches, it would be convenient.

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Is that the ones where they claim it’s remote but really they need you in the office 3 days a week?

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