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What is digital sovereignty?

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I am so looking forward to my daughters to become students. Definitely going to discuss this topic through with every person I have to. I am so not going to use WhatsApp or whatever similar software again. If there’s no other solution, they can call me or write a letter :D

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In Europe Whatsapp is the default messaging system. Everything else is cumbersome. Sure Signal is better but only like 3 people have it.

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Do what I did and send a message to everyone you care about saying “deleting whatsapp and switching to signal” or something like this.

It’s also a good way to weed out people who aren’t important in your life, I.e people who care about you will most likely install signal to keep in touch.

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This is the way. I had a story in WhatsApp for 3 months every day with a picture that I am going to fully switch to Signal and Threema and won’t be available over WhatsApp anymore. As you said, people who want something from me will have to jump over their shadow and write me over one of those. And it absolutely worked, took some time, but it worked. Some people even have signal installed only to text me. The rest just calls or sends SMS. I am from Europe btw. and it worked even though WhatsApp is so strongly used over here.

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I have an “Auto-reply” configured for whoever PMs me in whatsapp. Still no one cares surprises me

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Telegram is the best. Whatsapp copies everything from it.

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Yeah but if you don’t have brightwheel or seesaw or whatever the fuck, you won’t be getting important notifications. They only only call when you’re late for pickup or your kid shit so bad you have to take them home. Some of these are tied to billing as well. Don’t want to use My School Bucks? No aftercare or cafeteria breakfast/lunch. Sack lunch only.

It’s a huge pain but in many cases there’s no way around it.

I’m aware the original subject matter of this post is different, but the walled garden apps that you have to use no matter what start as soon as they enter preschool

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I don’t know any of these apps and I don’t know if they are used in Europe too, but if I really have to use some of these apps (and I understand that can absolutely happen), there will be an old/cheap phone laying around with these apps installed, they won’t be on my primary phone.

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I concede that that may not be the case outside of the US. In my experience here, though, there’s a whole world of apps and ecosystems that schools for children use now that I’d previously never heard of.

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But you have to setup a custom synapse bridge for element right ? Or did you find public servers ?

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ah too bad, I had looked up about the WhatsApp bridge thing but was too lazy to setup the bridge, I was hoping there would be Publix bridges (although bad for privacy)

Guess I’ll have to threaten convince my friends to use matrix

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Best option, use graphene and keep the propriety stuff on a separate user profile.

There is also a WhatsApp to go on F-droid . So you need an account then you can use the webapp on the phone.

But yea stuff like that sucks.

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You’re assuming they have a google pixel, also the grapheneos founder isn’t trustworthy

If you use discord on a seperate user profile, you’re still using discord, they still get your data. Sandboxing isn’t a perfect solution

The correct thing is to refuse, it is your (or your parents) legally owned hardwarw and they can not control it. They can’t force you to sign privacy policies

The fact that people are saying to comply with what your school says saddens me

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Louis Rossmann still recommends GrapheneOS to this day. The drama of a programmer shouldn’t extend to the quality of the (FOSS) code itself.

With FOSS, trust simply isn’t necessary. Anyone can verify the functionality of the code.

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It’s still necessary to some degree, but I get what you mean. I don’t quite trust and agree with the Lemmy dev’s because of their response to human right violation denial, it made me switch away from Lemmy.ml to Lemmy.world, but I still trust their software for the same reason you mentioned.

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He have stepped down since march this year I believe. No need to trust , verify. He was a bit of a removed but that doesn’t mean GOS is not trustworthy. Sandboxing on a separate profile ( truee separate which you only get on grapheneOS) combine with VPN , blocklist (VPN or DNS) and no gapps . Not that much. Especially if you run enterprise versions of apps. In EU it wouldn’t be legal.

Depends on your leverage here. But best to change school policy here. In many countries it would not be possible to force people to install WhatsApp or other programs on personal devices. Otherwise they have their own software or use email. Another thing if they provide the hardware.

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I actually wanted to see how Graphene works so I was going to install it on my old pixel 3a, but it’s no longer maintained. You know where I can get the last release images for the 3a?

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Not sure unfortunately , I should have a copy somewhere actually but hey don’t trust me. I would expect them to have them archived somewhere as well. You could check out the matrix chat and ask there. https://matrix.to/#/!UVEsOAdphEMYhxzTah:grapheneos.org?via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de&via=nitro.chat

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Oh, wait until you get a job in most offices. Microsoft, Microsoft everywhere.

BYOD with Linux? “We can’t install the company’s spyware on it, get that security risk out of here.”

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What if their OS choices aren’t insane?

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People who make a living by configuring Microsoft products for company use won’t want to change.

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Listen I work in IT and everyone is getting templeOS and they can like it. If gods own operating system isn’t good enough for you then you can clear off.

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Im all for privacy and obviously working where you want to but like really? Your unwilling to take a position if the desktop/laptop you use only for work doesn’t have an OS that’s acceptable? Regardless of pay/perks/etc you wouldn’t take a position where everything is perfect except you have to use their specified OS? This is genuine curiosity hopefully this doesn’t come accross as me trying to say I doubt you or your not entitled to your opinions but I just don’t get it, curious to understand why. What industry do you work in? It makes sense if a certain OS could make your job harder but I would be more worried about being able to use software that I want rather than OS at least at my current position.

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Not parent commenter, but yes, an inappropriate OS makes the job a lot harder for software developers. Also, there is rarely a need to store data on the end user device, this is mostly done out of convenience and lack of knowledge on how to do things properly

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I mean they’re not wrong, BYOD is an absolutely ginormous attack vector.

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For the user or the company? Assuming the user isn’t a moron with computers?

Edit: guess im out of the loop as a contractor who generally only does BYOD with my linux machine

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For the company, and no one should ever assume for a moment that everyone has their guard up at all times and is infallible.

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Assuming the user isn’t a moron with computers?

Lol

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If a user doesn’t understand that having complete control over every device in your network is essential, he’s being a complete moron with computers.

You should do your work, not worrying about patching all the 128 tools you think you need, that’s other peoples job.

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If an organisations’ security relies on the end device configuration there is no security.

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Who needs defense in depth, right?

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You can bring your own devices, but you don’t get permission to access anything?

Or what are you even trying to say about what the end users device being able to do anything

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When you’re supporting ten thousand machines on four continents and confirming to twenty different data protection doctrines the last thing you need is some neckbeard rocking up demanding to store data in their unauditable homebrew fork of Haiku or some shit.

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What is achieved with GPOs and agents is compliance, not security.

In other words, company issued devices don’t protect the data, but they ensure conformity with relevant regulations and standards. Which is what most organisations actually care about.

Many good IT people really do care about actual information security, but not those in charge.

The result are devices that hinder some people’s work but provide questionable actual security.

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Look! A Linux user! SCATTER, BEFORE HE CATCHES YOU!!

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