Researchers from Pritzker Molecular Engineering, under the guidance of Prof. Jeffrey Hubbell, demonstrated that their compound can eliminate the autoimmune response linked to multiple sclerosis. Researchers at the University of Chicago’s Pritzker School of Molecular Engineering (PME) have developed

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Unpopular opinion: Anyone who refused the COVID vaccine should be banned from getting this.

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People should be allowed full decision over the treatments they want to get, no matter how arbitrary, stupid, or contradictory. To suggest otherwise is a horrific dystopia

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Oh no, the dystopia of having to get a vaccine to prevent the spread of dangerous disease to your fellow human beings. The horror.

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The dystopia of arbitrarily punishing people with inability to get things that would literally cure their diabetes because they refused a vaccine

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Bullshit. You don’t get a new kidney and get to keep on drinking.

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Yeah, because kidneys are a rare and valuable thing what drinking would prevent from working

That makes zero sense for your petty ass sense of vengeance by denying people easily manufactured treatments because they turned down a vaccine you think they should have gotten.

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No, he’s right. They SHOULD be allowed full decision over the treatments they want to get.

However, those decisions should not be free from the rules we as a society have put in place.

Us banning COVID vaccine deniers this treatment could be a good compromise. They freely get to decide, and they also suffer the consequences of that decision. Win/Win.

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Do you mean liver? That’s the organ alcohol primarily harms. Kidneys are somewhat secondary.

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Yes, you do get to decide the treatments you want to get. Nobody is forcing any treatments on you. But just like freedom of speech, it doesn’t mean freedom from consequences of that speech. Too stupid and didn’t want to participate in saving your fellow human? Well, said fellow humans don’t want to participate in saving you either.

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If that decision contributes to the spread of a pandemic, they can keep they cherished decisions behind bars in a quarantined prison.

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If there are plenty of vaccines to go around, sure.

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Honestly asking, why even bring this up? What does this have to do with the topic of the post?

All you do is start an argument and divert away from the topic that was supposed to be discussed.

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Just spiteful. And ironic if you really want to claim to care about public health

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Science isn’t a religion. It’s a process. Just because it’s called a vaccine doesn’t mean its safe. You can be anti-this-particular-vaccine without being anti-all-vaccines.

(Edit - I misremembered what was hinky. For posterity, I’m restructuring my comment and preserving the bad take struck out below.)

In the case of the covid vaccines, that process was intentionally minimized as to bring the vaccine to market faster.

The vaccine did have benefits. It also had complications

that instead of being found out in trials were found out after release.

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Just spiteful.

Wanting to have two seperate conversations about two seperate vaccines is “spiteful”? Really?

And ironic if you really want to claim to care about public health

And I do care about public health, allot. For the record, I’m fully vaccinated.

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You don’t want to get a vaccine to help others + yourself, you shouldn’t be allowed to “believe in science” when it benefits you and only you.

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You don’t want to get a vaccine to help others + yourself, you shouldn’t be allowed to “believe in science” when it benefits you and only you.

Such a non-sequitur answer. And for the record, I’m fully vaccinated.

Go somewhere else to talk about your favorite vaccine. Don’t DERAIL this conversation about a completely different vaccine.

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Unpopular? O.o

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Just make it a combination shot. Then they can hit the red button… or not!

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Not that i necessarily support this policy, but to the people who are acting all offended at the idea you might be cut off from future scientific advances because of you’re hurting the public good (“Consequences? For my actions?!”): You could just get the vaccine.

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People are saying it causes 5g.

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Can I get it, I want strong signal at all times.

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6g comes out, carriers push everyone to get new 6g phones as the 5g networks get worked over. Bunch of vaxxers just walking around like “Nah, mine’s fine. Why spend hundreds on a new one? 🤷” AT&T and Samsung suddenly sponsoring research to undo vaccinations and turn the frogs hetero 🤣

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Honestly, this is a fair response to an outrageously sensationalist headline. There is promise in this particular style of vaccine, and it deserves further research, but to claim it’s going to cure all these disorders is something so far from the current truth that it really verges on an outright lie.

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Yours being in the negative is the whole reason I responded to it, actually. I was hoping my context could make people see that yours was the appropriate stance for those who aren’t hopelessly naive. Sorry it didn’t work!

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Because there’s a difference between “dismissive” and “skeptical.” Your comment was dismissive whereas adj16’s was skeptical.

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They added subtlety and made a point, you just reacted skeptically to a headline

If you’re surprised by this, you should really put more thought into why your post went negative

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More work is needed to study Hubbell’s pGal compounds in humans, but initial phase I safety trials have already been carried out in people with celiac disease, an autoimmune disease that is associated with eating wheat, barley, and rye, and phase I safety trials are underway in multiple sclerosis.

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It is certainly early, they have not even tested it on animals. Many promising drugs either do not work as believed or have nasty side effects that make them unusable. But we humans have invented many other amazing things. While caution is warranted, just writing it off as impossible is also premature.

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Reverse Type 1 Diabetes

Didn’t even read past that lie.

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Then you’re dumb, honestly.

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I love these people that act like it’s 1812 and great leaps in medicine are impossible.

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Just 5 more years!

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False hope is a terrible thing. Are there any lemmy communities with enforced certainty thresholds on his sort of article? Would be nice to be able to trust headlines somewhere.

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???

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This is really amazing if true. They should not call it a vaccine or else hardly anyone will get it…

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Natural selection at work. It is a super duper vaccine!

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I guess there are rude people here as well as reddit. Sigh.

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It’s more of an anti-vaccine, rather than conferring immune response it removes it.

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I doubt that people suffering from MS, T1, Crohn’s, Celiac etc would be discouraged by the term. It’s not a prophylactic vaccine intended for the general population.

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Lol I know that. I’m saying that there are more people than ever that are immediately wary of anything that is called a vaccine. You’re probably right that the ppl this directly impacts wouldn’t think the government put micro chips in it.

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“an inverse vaccine”

Oh good, at least they didn’t choose a name that’s gonna cause confusion.

TIL you can wait until you have the disease to take the vaccine. So if my kid gets polio, I’ll give them the vaccine then, but I don’t want to risk anything bad happening so I’ll wait. I’m glad I did my research.

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Treatment. The word they are looking for is treatment.

I swear to god these research firms absolutely need to get ahead of how they refer to this shit publicly. People are way too dumb to just speak literally.

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“Inverse vaccine” sounds like instead of preventing a disease through a weakened or dead version of the thing you’re preventing, they inject you with a stronger version of the thing you already have to kick it’s ass.

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“This body is spoken for.”

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That naming does makes sense, given what the treatment does, although I agree they really need to work on their marketing and come up with a term that won’t cause confusion or get the anti-vax folk excitable.

From the article:

“A typical vaccine teaches the human immune system to recognize a virus or bacteria as an enemy that should be attacked. The new “inverse vaccine” does just the opposite: it removes the immune system’s memory of one molecule. While such immune memory erasure would be unwanted for infectious diseases, it can stop autoimmune reactions like those seen in multiple sclerosis, type I diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, or Crohn’s disease, in which the immune system attacks a person’s healthy tissues.”

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It does make sense. And it is so so easy to get tangled.

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