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i don’t personally love seeing antinatalism stuff on my feed especially since it tends to attract really nasty proto-eugenics types

can we not, or at the bare minimum mark this nsfw?

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35 points

I don’t want to continue my bloodline because of looming threat of climate change.

And also cause I’m ugly and have self-esteem issues.

What’s eugenics gotta do with it?

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15 points

/gen is this sarcasm or are you not aware that you answered your question with your second sentence :(

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Check my other reply.

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3 points

I’m ugly and have self-esteem issues

That’s eugenics. Choosing not to reproduce for genetic reasons.

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26 points

Choosing to not have kids yourself, for whatever reason, is definitely not eugenics. I don’t even get how you’d come to this idea.

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yes. and to be clear, it’s not eugenics to make that choice yourself. problem starts as soon as it becomes about others though. seen far too many internet conversations go from

  • “i won’t reproduce” to
  • “it’s my responsibility not to reproduce” to
  • “it’s our responsibility not to reproduce” to
  • “the poor and disabled should be sterilized.”

this post is already getting pretty damn close to step 3 right there. reddit was awful for this so i encourage us to just be aware when stuff like this comes up.

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7 points

Alternately: choosing to reproduce for genetic reasons. Positive eugenics is still eugenics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

Historically, eugenicists have attempted to alter human gene pools by excluding people and groups judged to be inferior or promoting those judged to be superior.

Emphasis mine, though seems people rarely get called out for the latter.

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4 points

I meant that in a ‘no woman would want me’ way and not in ‘I don’t want to propagate my genes’ way.

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2 points

Seriously I’ve never seen it discussed as a eugenics thing. Ive certainly seen it in population control discussions (obviously) but normally childfree and antinatalist discussion is focused on the self

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27 points

Curious about your age and social group. Pretty much everyone I associate with doesn’t want to have kids, usually citing the world their children would inherit. These definitely aren’t the type of people that support eugenics, in any way. Are you of the belief that we should be increasing the world’s population? If so, why?

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9 points

Yeah I have no idea why this person is on about. Antinatalism has literally nothing to do with eugenics. It’s all about saying “fuck you I’m not going to make more cogs for the machine.”

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7 points

I’ll be honest it was a huge question that hung over my wife and I when we were trying to decide whether to have kids or not. But we were in our mid 30s and it was a ‘now or never’ type situation.

Believe it not there is positives in raising kids. We’re definitely not judgemental of people who decide they don’t want to. But I love my kids more than I knew it was possible. And we’re trying to raise them with an understanding of the world that’s a bit broader than the ra-ra pro-capital values we were taught as kids.

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4 points

no, i have no belief regarding the world’s population in either direction. this comment pretty much explains the rest of my position.

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1 point

Huh, it won’t load. Does that mean I’m banned?

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0 points

You need to go learn about Demographic Transition. The world’s population is naturally going to cap itself this century.

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5 points

People choose to have less kids since there’s less of a need to invest in human capital. It’s a conscious choice, what’s your point?

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i just have a feeling raising kids will get harder and harder, because the economy is getting worse and more unequal. even factoring out climate change, its expensive to afford even my own survival.

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7 points

this community refuses to put slurs behind nsfw tags but idk i hope u can convince some

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7 points

yeah i would also support putting slurs behind nsfw tags that kind of seems obvious to me wow

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4 points

One perk of running my own instance is that I can just ban ppl that post slurs outside nsfw tags & without CWs 👀😎

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49 points

Or, you know, fight to see the system change hopefully within your lifetime and provide a better future for the generations to come. Because they will come, no matter whether you personally have kids or not. Your procreation choices are entirely up to you.

Yes, you are not responsible that someone else fucked up. That masses of people fucked up. You are not responsible to clean up the mess it caused. But, you know, you can still help.

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16 points

Sounds like something the people on top would say to ensure I work more hours.

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6 points

laughs in unemployment

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12 points

Until I saw thia message, I entirely thought that this post was suggesting using a condom to choke oneself to death.

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39 points

God that’s depressing

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29 points

Exactly how it should be.

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27 points

Getting a vasectomy is the biggest possible middle finger I could have hoisted to the parasite class

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25 points

Vasectomy 🎉❤️🐇😘

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9 points

For The Win.

Cost 650 dollars and saved tens of thousands.

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2 points

$35 copay! Best money ever.

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1 point

Hundreds of thousands

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7 points

Tubes tied 4 years ago

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