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Now the fun part: guess the y-axis

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26 points

log(something)?

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2 points

You lose accuracy if you show addition of components on a log scale, so if true this is a terrible graph

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1 point

log(log(something))?

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18 points
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Annually (Gt/a) or total (Gt).

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22 points

Annual, since there are occasional drops

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8 points

Makes sense. We haven’t yet made it since the great plague, I guess, to decrease the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

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It fucking stuns me that we still use coal in this day and age.

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24 points

Honestly, better than gas. Like, yah, natural gas has lower co2 per unit of power at the power plant, but there’s methane leaking all along the supply chain, a green house gas 40 times more potent than Co2.

between 5-10% of the methane that comes out of a well ends up leaking somewhere along the line. To make the heating effect even break even with coal the leak rate would have to be closer to 1%.

Not advocating to keep burning coal, just saying that what we’ve been replacing it with is worse. I’d rather we keep a coal plant open and wait for an opportunity to replace with with a non-carbon emitting power source than build a shiny new gas plant that’s going to be kept around for at least 20 years.

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30 points

Ng has half the CO2 and pretty much eliminates the others like NOx, SOx, PM, etc. Yes leaking can be an issue but there’s obvious incentive to not have leaks, you can place power plants close to the ng source, etc. Coal can never be clean.

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Natural gas can never be clean ether, and the cost of sealing up the supply chain is more expensive than just drilling more, some states have tried to put in laws to set a minimum leak rate and natural gas companies lobbied to prevent the bills from passing. Far from the first example of natural gas companies lobbying against laws that would cut in to their profits.

Natural gas as a bridge fuel was a distraction to divert the public away from actual solutions. It’s worse for climate change than coal is and plenty of in-depth reports, papers, and research bear this out.

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There is a lot of methane and other gases leaking out of coal too.

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Natural gas is 95% methane. Coal is a fraction of a fraction of a percent methane. When coal leaks, it ends up as a bunch of rocks on the side of a rail track. When natural gas infrastructure leaks, it dumps Megatons of methane into the atmosphere. The research and reporting on this topic are clear, natural gas has a significantly higher heating impact than coal, with no doubt.

Natural gas as a “bridge fuel” was just as much a lie as “clean coal”, a PR campaign to support lobbyists in their efforts to prevent regulation.

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26 points

interesting that ‘land use’ has been pretty flat?

hard to tell with the stacking lines, but I guess this isnt dataisbeautiful after all

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10 points

Even more interesting that land use had a marginal cooling effect, despite also causing a net increase in CO2 emissions.

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This is just CO2, and doesn’t include other greenhouse gases like nitrous oxide and methane.

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23 points

I hope I get spectator mode after I die so that I can watch the climate wars.

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13 points

This is unironically something I’d love to do. Not just to see what humanity will be like in a thousand years (if they’re still around). I want to watch the sun blow up, galaxies merge, and black holes die. Spectator mode with fast forward, basically.

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9 points

This is the type of afterlife I want to believe in.

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9 points

Why only carbon dioxide and not all greenhouse gases? Nitrous oxide and methane are significant contributors especially in the agriculture sector

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Personally I am far more worried by the lack of labels for the y axis. The longer I look at this graph the weirder it is.

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