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That sounds like a great way to make stale bread…

Things we refrigerated that I’ve seen others not refrigerate:

  • jelly(US)
  • ketchup
  • mustard

Things we didn’t refrigerate that I’ve seen others do:

  • peanut butter
  • honey
  • oil
  • soy sauce
  • oyster sauce

Edit: Just to clarify this is what my parents did and doesn’t reflect my adult opinions.

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Omigod honey.

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Ours always crystallized and needed to be microwaved or soaked in hot water anyway so it’s kind of a 6 of one; 1/2 dozen of the other situation in my experience.

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Some soy sauce recommends refrigeration on the bottle. Some don’t. I don’t know why.

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Probably based how much salt is actually in the sauce. High enough salinity will basically kill any potential nasties.

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I would wager it has more to do with preserving the flavor.

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I’m with you, but the first three only after they’ve been opened.

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The unrefrigerated jelly is the only one that bugs me.

I actually switched my peanut butter stance as an adult, but only because I switched to real peanut butter and it separates slower in the fridge.

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If it’s in a sealed plastic bag it doesn’t go stale until long after it would have molded on the counter. I refrigerate mine because I buy Costco sized sliced bread and it takes me 2 months to go through it. If you toast your bread, the staleness is unnoticeable

A lot of these things only need to be refrigerated to preserve flavor, not to stop spoilage. If you go through a bottle of ketchup in 3 months there is little benefit to refrigerating it, if it takes 3 years for you to finish it, it should probably stay in the fridge.

Some peanut butter brands require refrigeration to prevent mould. Others recommend it because it stops the oils from separating. Brands like Kraft don’t require any refrigeration at all

Refrigerating oil will stop it from going rancid, but I’ve only ever needed to do this with used deep frier oil

Honey is just a hell no in the fridge

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The Costco bagels are notorious for molding before you even get home…

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If I put oil in the fridge it gets solid

Same for honey, as cold accelerate the crystallization process.

Peanut butter is basically oil already, but putting it in the fridge might help keeping it less oily. I eat organic 100% peanut butter and it is often oily when I open it. I think that’s why some have palm oil in it.

Soy sauce should be salty enough to store out the fridge but I prefer to keep it in the fridge for some reason.

Oyster sauce contains sea food, so straight in the fridge!

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Oyster sauce contains sea food, so straight in the fridge!

You’ll be horrified to learn where the ปลาร้า(fermented fish)lives in my own house as an adult 😂

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Don’t worry, I’ll keep my eyes shut

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I’d be remiss if I didn’t post this every time someone mentions palm oil.

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palm oil.

Oh my sweet internet. Now I know what I’ll put on display next time I’ll get drunk with my friends. Thank you very much sir!

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Oyster sauce should be kept in the fridge, it helps it oxidize slower.

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I used to buy a lot of “”““natural””“” peanut butter. The kind in glass jars that separates after a while, so you have to stir the jar every time you use it. After a while, I started keeping it in the refrigerator because that stopped it from separating at all. Just stir once when opening the jar for the first time, then into the refrigerator it goes, and it never needs stirring again.

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Honey depends on the quality. Real honey will basically never turn bad (they found containers with thousand year old still edible honey), but the cheap stuff is sometimes mixed with sugar syrup etc. and then it needs refrigeration.

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Sugar is also a preservative though.

The refrigeration is either to extend flavor or to prevent spoilage in hot and humid locations where mold can build on the parts of the container that dry out if it isn’t used often.

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My soy and fish/oyster all say to refrigerate right on the label.

Since they already made the shit I’m ingesting, I’m taking their word for it.

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High salt/vinegar content condiments are perfectly fine at room temp for a weeks to months in dry to mostly dry moderate temp climates. That is why air conditioned restaurants which have consistent temps and low humidity leave them out on the tables.

The label is there so someone in Florida doesn’t have it go bad in a couple months on their counter. Plus refrigeration extends the time it can go without spoiling, which is great for condiments that are rarely used.

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I like my ketchup refrigerated, not because it has to be, but because I like the contrast between cold ketchup and hot food.

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…the reason jelly/jam/preserves are canned is because they are not shelf stable otherwise. I just threw out a jar because it molded in the fridge…

Peanut butter is shelf stable, but we usually get the stuff that’s just peanuts and salt, so it separates at room temp.

Mustard, ketchup, & soy/fish sauce… sometimes it’s just convenient to keep most of my bottles and jars together in the fridge door.

I’m hypersensitive to rancid oil. Also the healthy parts of olive oil & fish oil degrade with time, heat, sun and oxygen exposure. The fridge slows this down. That said, I keep my cooking oil under the counter.

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peanut butter

This one absolutely turns on what kind of peanut butter you have. Jif/Skippy etc. shouldn’t go into the fridge. It was engineered, for better or worse, to be shelf stable and turns into silly putty if it’s cold. Most “Real” peanut butter separates like a mofo if it’s in the pantry, requiring frequent stirring, and many recipes will never quite be solid enough to spread well. In the fridge, they are much easier to deal with, though my latchkey Xennial ass still prefers the wondrous combination of peanut-inspired substances and mid-century food science.

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I live in a humid climate (especially in the summer), and if we don’t refrigerate our bread and tortillas, or any baked goods, they get moldy in like 4 days.

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Well, yes…but 4 day old bread from the fridge is basically inedible as well because of the bad taste.

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I’ve never had my bread get stale from being in the fridge for 4 days. You have to leave it in a bag or airtight container.

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Then you probably only ever had bad bread to begin with.

Edit: I suspect all the down-votes are from the US/UK who sadly never tasted good bread fresh from the oven it seems.

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It just goes into the toaster. Works better than frozen bread with crystals.

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Keep it in the bag and then warm it up in a toaster oven. Imagine eating sad room temperature bagels…

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My fridge bread tastes exactly the same for weeks?

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That’s not bread, but some bread looking cardboard then.

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Likewise. I enjoy my bread lasting more than four days.

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Have you tried freezing it?

Refrigerating baked goods accelerates staleness, but most baked goods freeze well.

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Frozen bread or bust. No one’s wants that cardboard you kept in the fridge.

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Freeze it every time.

If you’re anything less than a family of four, leaving bread at room temperature is just eating half a loaf of bread and then throwing away half a loaf of mouldy bread.

Most supermarket bread has indeed already been frozen before you get it.

I even freeze all the cakes from Costco, since they only seem to come in packs of about a thousand.

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In my area it’s common to buy bread daily

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I’ve had bread in the freezer for months, I throw it straight in the toaster and it comes out like, well… normal ass toast.

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Good to know, I recently started getting bread from a local bakery but it doesn’t last, I’ll have to try freezing it next time

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Yes, we freeze some as well

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This is the way. It’s all I do.

If I’m going to use the bread in the next couple days? I’ll keep it out. Otherwise, I put all my baked goods/bread in the freezer, and extra freezer I bought. Keeps for months. 6+ months if you’re lucky and willing to deal with it being overly dry.

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people are downvoting a scientifically verifiable statment.

owning the bread chillers

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Only exception for me is tortillas. I mean they technically freeze well, but they will also stick together which would make quite a thick burrito.

My parents always freeze them and I always forget until I’m there trying to make a burrito and it tears in half.

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yup. tortillas go in the fridge so you can get individual ones easily. Staleness never really bothered me, but i do warm them up on the stove to improve malleability. And i like to get my burritos a little crispy on the outside to help seal the final fold. Now i want burritos…

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Chuck them in the microwave or better yet put baking paper (which if i recall correctly you usians call wax paper or parchment paper) in between each tortilla before you freeze it to keep them seperate

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That’s legit. Not really in Canada though.

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I refrigerate my bread, english muffins, and tortillas too!

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Same. I don’t get why people act like putting bread in the fridge is world ending. Unless your eating a whole loaf of bread in 2 days in the fridge it goes.

That or you get a loaf of mold on the 4th day.

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Probably because it sucks to eat cold bread

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You can take two slices out for like five minutes and you’ll be good my guy.

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Toasting! Doesn’t even have to be browned, doesn’t even have to go long enough to get firm, but a little warming up makes bread even better! :D

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Or lightly toast it? You don’t have to get it crispy to warm it up. It’s better than moldy bread

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I had 65% last weekend and since then constantly a bit above 50% in Switzerland. Usually around 30% unless it’s summer. How much is “humid” for you?

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Humidity where I live right now is 81%. And we’re having a “dry spell”.

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Woah.

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We get 90% every day here in Florida

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Sounds like mold.

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Today it’s 75%

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52%, rainy-sunny mix. This season is incredibly wet.

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I too grew up in a humid environment and got used to using either a bread box or the fridge.

Then I realized that our bread was just cheap sugar infused garbage, and that if you pay a bit more for better bread, it does not mold anywhere nearly as quickly.

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I had air conditioning growing up and my family tends to make desserts more in the winter.

The first summer living on my own, I made a beautiful blueberry pie, and the next morning I took it out of the microwave (to keep bugs away during the night- I have since learned this was also an idiosyncrasy from my parents. Most people just cover it) and it was already visibly moldy.

I’m glad I got a slice the first day, and I definitely learned a lesson but holy shit was it a surprise.

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Same. In the winter here, bread can last two weeks, but in the summer it’ll mold in a day or two.

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My parents didn’t just refrigerate bread. They stuck excess bread in the fucking freezer.

Edit: guess I’ve been sleeping on the freezer bread thing. Y’all seem pretty sold on the concept.

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That works well for toast that you only ever plan to eat toasted.

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Clearance rack bread.

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When I bake bread I usually freeze half but thaw it when I need it because fresh bread goes bad fast.

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I used to live in the tropics.

This is standard. Half the bread goes in the freezer immediately.

When you finish the first half, move the frozen bread into the fridge.

Refrigerated bread is good once you get used to it.

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Juuust skip that fridge step. Take slices out the freezer when you wake up. Slices thaw by the time your morning ritual is done and you’re ready for brekky. If toasting anyways, don’t even really need to wait for thaw. No stale fridge taste you need to get used to.

This thread kills me, so many people eating stale-ass bread. :c

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Even if you don’t want cold bread, you shouldn’t skip the fridge step. The slower the thawing process, the better the bread.

Maybe it’s just me, but fridge bread doesn’t taste stale. The cold bread tastes more like a desert than room temperature bread.

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My grandparents do that. I leave it on the counter, but always say I’m going to freeze it, especially if I get it at costco, which sells you 2 loafs at a time. The only problem is I never have enough room to shove an entire loaf of bread in there. Freezer for bread is fine. If you pull out a few slices, it basically defrosts in like 10 min or use microwave for 10 seconds, and if you wanted toast, just toast it.

I just threw out an entire loaf because it was on my counter for 5 days and saw mold… must be the type of bread as well since it normally lasts weeks just fine. Since I’m always buying what’s near the cheapest that’s on sale I am always buying different brands.

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The freezer does keep bread fresher longer (as long as you aren’t storing it in a self defrosting freezer long enough to get freezer burn). It literally freezes the staling process. And fridging bread actually accelerates staling. Something to do with water molecules getting squeezed out of starch molecules or something; I don’t remember the details.

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We do that with sandwich bread because it is cheaper to buy a double loaf pack and the freezer keeps it fresh until the second one is needed with zero noticeable difference in taste and texture.

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Fresh baked bread without a ton of preservatives only lasts four or five days if you don’t freeze it.

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Been freezing bread for years as I don’t eat it fast enough.

Quick 30s zap in the microwave and it’s warm and soft and ready for sandwiches

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I love hitting these threads a few hours late

“The sickos were FREEZING bread! UPDATE: I have since seen the error of my ways and apologized to my parents and thrown all bread I own into the freezer, and discarded any notion of leaving bread out”

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My parents didn’t just refrigerate bread. They stuck excess bread in the fucking freezer.

My parents did that too, and they’re the reason why I don’t do that, because I grew up despising thawed bread.

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I’m kinda intimidated by this whole thread. I’m scared to mention that I really hate thawed bread (I tried room temp, microwave, oven and toaster). (I even tried different freezers.) If I buy bread, then it’s either the very smallest amount at the bakery when I really feel like good bread, or just a bun, or supermarket bread with preservatives. But mostly I just live a bread free life.

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It’s much better than putting it into the fridge

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Mine refuse to refrigerate cheese (other than cream-cheese) and butter. Infuriates me as it gets super oily and rancid real fast.

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My SO does leave butter in a butter dish but only a small amount.

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We got a butter bell, which is the best of both worlds. Room temperature butter kept airtight. Lasts 10-14 days, I’d estimate.

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I always thought it was OK to leave salted butter out. Been doing it for years never had a problem I can remember. I also don’t eat tons of butter so would guess I’ve left it out longer than two weeks

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This is the first I’ve heard of a butter bell. I’ve been leaving salted butter out for years, but I bought a glass food storage container with a snap on lid that is basically the exact size of a stick of butter. I suppose it’s accomplishing almost the same thing, although a tiny amount of air does get inside especially as the stick is eaten.

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I do this with Colby cheese. mmmm, greasy cheese

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One of my wife’s friends got persistently sick last year. She just could not get better. Sometimes she’d be fine for a week or two, but then she’d get sick again. Eventually it came down to her needing to document everything she did each day - and they discovered she was getting sick from warm butter.

Turns out her mom had come over at some point and saw that she refrigerated butter and said “you don’t need to do that, it’s so much easier to use when warm and it doesn’t go bad.” Yeah, that’s the case if you eat a stick of butter in a few short days. But you can’t leave it out for more than that or it starts getting filled with all sorts of germs.

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Was it unsalted butter? Salted butter can be left out for a while, certainly more than a few days without concern, but unsalted needs to be refrigerated.

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Not sure. Sounds like unsalted based on what you said.

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i eat salted butter that stay days outside the freezer without getting sick, never tested with unsalted, or my immune system is better idk

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For the last few years, I’ve been using butter I leave out in a covered butter dish on the counter since I learned that’s fine. It’s always been a stick of salted butter which I typically finish within 2-3 weeks and that’s never caused any problems. I wonder if it being unsalted would really change things that much…

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did she just leave it out uncovered? one of those ceramic dish things with a cover seems to keep it out fine.

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Not sure. But those dishes definitely aren’t airtight.

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I’ve been made fun of for thinking butter tastes/feels off after sitting out on the counter, but it absolutely does. If you want soft butter, take it out like an hour before or soften it with heat and whip it back into a homogeneous mixture. I usually cut a pad and melt it on top of whatever I’m making before spreading it. Anything but leaving it on the counter to go bad…

Cheese is a weird one though. Definitely refrigerate cheese.

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They claim cheese needs to “breathe” and apparently that is indeed a thing for some French cheese, but not have it sit unrefrigerated for a few days 😒

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Depending on the cheese, breathing just means being exposed to oxygen, you can do that INSIDE the refrigerator if it is clean

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Someone tried to convince me to get a heated butter knife. I think I’m seeing their point on it

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Can also just heat a regular butter knife over the stove or more ideally in hot water

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My SO is a counter butter er. I’ve told her it’s grow but she won’t listen. She gets her own butter now.

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Yeah, butter changes color too. Something happens if it turns soft.

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My SO got a chuckle out of me because I instinctively put chocolate in the fridge. I grew up in a hot climate but I live in Canada now.

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Wait, yeah I guess it does make sense that people living in cold climates wouldn’t put chocolate in the fridge. TIL

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yea if you live outside I guess

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The reverse is also true sometimes. Coconut “oil” for example is always a solid where I grew up, and it caught me by surprise seeing it actually being sold as a liquid in normal oil bottles.

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I purchase mine as a solid but by the time I get it home it’s mostly liquid

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I really enjoy coconut oil as a rough weather gauge.

I cook with it a lot, but prefer it to be in liquid form for easy measure (which only happens in the warmer bits of summer here), so in winter, I keep a jar of it on top of a particularly warm heat vent.

I keep my place at 60f/15.6c in winter or it costs a fortune to heat. When it’s relatively warm out, the heat doesn’t kick on often enough to melt it, but when it’s real cold/windy the entire thing will be liquid.

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Ghee is the same way. It becomes thick and granular in cool weather. Otherwise it looks like cooking oil.

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That’s legit though.

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Even when in canada, because cold chocolate below 20°C is cronchier and doesnt melt in your hand as fast.

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It changes the taste, though. Like, it’s probably not noticeable for cheap chocolate, as that tastes flat to begin with, but proper chocolate should be kept at room temperature…

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I put dark chocolate in the freezer, not for preservation or anything I just love the texture.

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crystalline chocolate is the shit, then when you chew it it just sort of turns into gravel and melts, so good

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Gotta give the lead some fridge time too

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I’m here for crunchy chocolate. Also really depends on what season for Canada definitely can get toasty.

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I know i’m not the only one prefering chocolate refrigerated (and some variants frozen). Not the creamy type for me.

Lindt with nuts is way crunchier in the freezer.

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I keep Reese’s peanut butter cup minis in the freezer when family sends them (not for sale in Japan currently). My wife likes Alfort which are chocolate + biscuit cookies and turned me on to putting those in the freezer. Somehow, it’s much better that way; I didn’t expect the biscuit to be changed or, if so, certainly not better, but it is.

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